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        10-09-2009, 06:10 PM
    Okay so PP saved your horse, big deal. What can your horse do other than not bite, kick or rear? Don't prech to me about him, I don't like him and I don't have to good for you for liking him! Glad you found someone to steal your money

    A BTW as an Equine Massage Therapist I can see how PP can cause harm to you horse. Do some research, whatever your horse.
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        10-09-2009, 06:44 PM
    Before this becomes a debate, everyone is entitled to their own opinions and lets please respect the opinions of others.
    Not everyone is going to like the same thing, but there's no reason to bad mouth other NH techniques.
        10-09-2009, 06:44 PM
    I have read, and watched alot of Clinton's methods, and they aren't any more 'aggressive' than alot of other NH trainers; he starts out soft, and puts more pressure on as the horse delays response.

    To the OP, I don't remember the author, but "Natural Horsemanship Explained" is an awesome place to start, as it doesn't endorse any particular trainer, but gives alot of detail as far as what a natural horseman is looking for, and trying to achieve from his horses. I read it at a bookstore one time, and if I had had the money, I would have bought it! Alot of people on here will tell you go with a certain trainer, but I think you need to gain the actual incite of what NH is first...THEN you can choose a trainer you like from what you already know. Personally, I glean incite from ALOT of trainers, not just one, and I don't usually recommend one over another, because horses are going to respond to training methods differently, and a huge part of horse training, is learning what your horse can handle, and how you can best influence him to do what you want without fighting him.
        10-09-2009, 07:03 PM
    Originally Posted by FehrGroundRanch    
    Okay so PP saved your horse, big deal. What can your horse do other than not bite, kick or rear? Don't prech to me about him, I don't like him and I don't have to good for you for liking him! Glad you found someone to steal your money

    A BTW as an Equine Massage Therapist I can see how PP can cause harm to you horse. Do some research, whatever your horse.
    lol! Are you serious??
        10-09-2009, 07:28 PM
    Green Broke
    Parelli saved me and my horses life!!

    She use to drag me across 100 acres when I tried to lead her in, would rear every step she took. Would lunge at anyone who came near her with ears pinned. Would kick out every time you would try and touch her back legs. And a BUNCH more when I first got her. She was abused for 4 years of her life.

    Now she comes in with out a halter. I can put anything over around her, can do anything with her legs. And I know that even if she's galloping at me she will stop before she ever gets close enough to hurt me and she does. She's naturally collecting under saddle Im willing to ride her in just a rope halter, walk her on the road everything things I would NEVER be able to do with out parelli.. well let me take that back.. I could.. but it wouldnt have the same satification I have everyday I see her and how much she has improved and I know I did it right ... fair..

    CA isnt really about fair.. he's just cares about the results parelli cares about the horse before the goals and that's teh way it should be IMO
        10-09-2009, 07:54 PM
    You bet I'm serious! :) Glad that you care about my opinion ;)

    HAF Glad to hear that your mare finally got somehwere and that you have had some success with her. However CA certinaly does care about his horses, have you ever met him to say otherwise?

    Do you think I don't care about my horses because I'm not a PP follower? If you do you are dead wrong, I have done alot to educate myself to make sure that my horses have the best life possible. My horses will follow me EVERYWHERE and do ANYTHING for me with out any PP. Just becuase I don't follow him doesn't mean I don't love my horses or care about them.
        10-09-2009, 08:09 PM
    Green Broke
    Ty FGR :)

    Since it was asked maybe not directed towards me but...

    Chance is w.t.c and collecting naturally and jumping 2' courses. Will canter with me at liberty with me. Ride in just a rope halter, Go on trails and be the calmest in the group, Do roll backs, do a western jog or englishy trot, spanish walk, smile, bow... and a bunch more. And is actually LIGHT to pressure unlike most horses I know. That's what my horse can do other then not kick rear and what not lol. ;)

    I respect your opinion honestly. Of COURSE you care about your horses. Parelli isnt the only way to do things I agree.

    But I have 6 of his no worries dvds, and seen youtube video and even tried his methods with my horse. Wasn't impressed and wont try it again but this is MO!!! At the end Chance was more scared of me. Seeing that she was abused and un trusting when I tried it, it was the WRONG method to try for her! She needed LOVE language and leadership! And parelli did it! Now that im further along with her I can start asking for more refined stuff and be more demanding.

    Parelli isnt ALL lovey dovey.. sometimes that's where people go wrong, they do to much love not enough leadership and get pushed around.. depending on the horse...
        10-09-2009, 08:15 PM
    I never said that about you, I respect that you are trying to better yourself and your horse. I'm glad that you found something to work for you, truly I am. I love your little mare and I think that she has a ton of talent.

    The difference between you and other PP followers, you don't try to shove it down my throat! :)

    You are a bright young girl who will have some fantastic horsemanship skills when you are older (not that you don't already) weather you choose to follow PP or not, you know why? You can think for yourself and you do care about your horse, not just what PP has to say. Sure you are a follower, but a diehard, I think not.
        10-09-2009, 08:19 PM
    Green Broke
    Aw thank you FGR :)!

    Ill be honest, im not impressed with many parelli followers they DO try and shove it down others throats im not going to lie. Along with hate you if you arent a 100% follower and will put down anything you do if not parelli. I've been down that road.

    Theres very few who accept other methods.

    My goal is to be the best Horseman [girl :P] I can be :)

    But that's why so many are turned away from the program. There are a lot of non parelli who are AMAZING with horses!! And have a bond me and Chance are still acheiving.
        10-09-2009, 08:21 PM
    Keep up with your open mind and you will be! :)

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