Haha, he and sour do sound a lot alike! She even had that ugly duckling stage until this June. Ewe necked, straight backed, un-porportional head...and now she's one of the prettiest mini's on the land(and that's the owners saying that, not me.) in a way Im glad she was ugly though, or more people would of tried to steal her from me =] now they don't dare, because she's attached to me and only me(oops?). Haha. I don't think she's ever going to be a 'champion' anything like your boy, but we are going to try some in-hand jumping when she's done growing. As for the joining up, well...its annoying- yes, but I've just given that idea up for now ^^ no sense in frustrating both of us. I can settle with partners if I can't be the lead mare of her herd.