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    09-01-2013, 05:45 PM
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Well, 14 year olds can look up videos of Olympic riders and try jumping extreme heights without proper understanding and skills... There's no difference, really.
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    09-01-2013, 05:45 PM
The girl knows her stuff. There's plenty of videos online showing people doing stupid stuff. She's got to a point in her horse training career that I think she's earned the badge of respect from me. To each their own.

Working with horses is inherently dangerous. Heck picking out a horses feet has killed people.

ETA: I don't think that horse will be getting sold to a fourteen year old anytime soon;)
    09-01-2013, 05:58 PM
You should be the boss and leader for your horse. I think the horse should do whatever you ask of him as well.
Some people would rather be a friend rather than a leader. But no matter the case, your horse should try to do everything you ask him to do - but do it safely and can stop when you ask him to.
I love playing with my horse - sitting with him, going for a run around the arena, going over poles and doing barrels. That is how I play. I ask him to do something and he should do it. He should be willing to do it, not be dragging his feet and wanting to go home.
    09-01-2013, 06:11 PM
Showjumperachel-The video that I have seen she is wearing a helmet while she is jumping?

As far as the video... Frankly, she is an amazing rider and knows what she is doing. There is plenty of other stupid crap on the internet that kids can look up and try to imitate. She shouldn't limit what she can or cannot put on the internet, for fear that someone will try to mimic it.
    09-01-2013, 06:19 PM
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There are plenty more videos on Youtube where the people are doing this sort of thing but in a way that I wouldn't call controlled or disciplined at all
Does it worry me that young people will try to imitate - well yes it does - but there's a million and one things out there for them to do that with
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    09-01-2013, 06:22 PM
^Like all of the generally terrible riders. Youtube is equally full of awesome content (Riders and horses), and people who have no business being near them.
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    09-01-2013, 06:25 PM
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I see a horse that is respecting the persons space, I don't see any aggression or nastiness. He reacts to her body language. I think it's kind of neat.
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    09-01-2013, 06:27 PM
Originally Posted by Saranda    
Well, 14 year olds can look up videos of Olympic riders and try jumping extreme heights without proper understanding and skills... There's no difference, really.
Well, unless everyone gives up jumping on horses, there will be videos of horses doing jumping. This person is selling a DVD to 'teach' others to do what she does. If a top jumper sold a DVD saying, 'You can ride like I do', I'd think poorly of him/her as well.

Based on the studies I've seen, jumping increases the risk by 10-40 fold. That is 1,000-4,000%. Jumping without a saddle is probably even riskier. A responsible person doesn't encourage others to learn something like that by watching a video or DVD.

And maybe I'm just not a NH guy, but I'm about to campaign for a law that would make it illegal to use "bond" and "horse" in the same sentence. Maybe in the same paragraph. As in this comment from the YouTube video:

"The bond you have with you're horses is amazing!"

If you want to be safe, you ride the training, not the bond. But that may just be the grumpy old man in me. Maybe if I go watch "The Black Stallion" 50 times...
    09-01-2013, 06:31 PM
I agree. You should have all safety and respect with your horse before any bond happens. You can have a bond with your horse, but that doesn't always mean the horse will respect you. I have a bond with my horse as well - but he still is pushy and test me once in a while. Just because I have a bond with my horse doesn't mean I will never get hurt when I am with him.
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    09-01-2013, 06:37 PM
I bonded with Mia almost immediately. We just liked each other. But she was dangerous to ride for years, because she didn't know how to be ridden, I couldn't ride worth squat, and what we both didn't know was dangerous to us both. With time, and TRAINING, she is much better for ANYONE who gets on her back.

Trooper & I are not pals. He tolerates me at best. He doesn't think of me as his friend, or even a nice guy. But he is safer to ride, because he's an ex-ranch horse who is in the habit of obeying and getting the job done. Even now, after 5+ years, I would probably be safer on Trooper than on Mia. When the horse hits the fan, it is training that counts. Not bonding.

Of course, maybe my horses are freaks. But maybe not. I like Mia a lot more. But Trooper is a better horse. But in honesty...the 'bonding' is why I pick Mia to ride about 98% of the time.
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