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        09-01-2013, 06:38 PM
      #21
    Trained
    Mmmm, I don't like seeing people 'playing' with their horses like this, scares me in all sorts of ways, BUT having looked at a few more videos, this girl knows her stuff, she rides really, I mean REALLY well and obviously has a bond with her horses beyond the "playing in the paddock" mentality.

    As to the jumping without a helmet, she seems to be wearing one in most videos, so kudos for that.
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        09-01-2013, 08:13 PM
      #22
    Foal
    T'Khasi wouldn't interact with a human like that. He has the opinion that when the humans are in the field with you, you stand quietly or walk slowly... I am inclined to agree with him! But then I have epilepsy, so it is very important that my horse be aware of safe boundaries. If I keel over next to him, I want him to react by either staying still or moving slowly away, iyswim. That is what I am aiming for anyway Big ask, but it is my goal.
         
        09-01-2013, 08:17 PM
      #23
    Yearling
    Sorry guys, didn't mean to start this then leave- I've been at work all day.


    Personally, I wouldn't do this with my horse. I don't care how experienced I am or how long I've been with my horse....I just can't fathom doing this. The horse does seem to know his boundaries, though.
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        09-01-2013, 09:41 PM
      #24
    Showing
    Arisahn, should you have a seizure while in the pasture, don't be afraid to lie down when you feel it coming on. Your horse will stand guard over you, as it would if another horse that is down sleeping. An interesting story- a fellow returned from Iraq with head injuries that resulted in seizures. He learned to ride and bo't a horse. Before long they hit the trails. On one ride he slid out of the saddle. When he became aware, his mare was standing guard. He soon learned that she knew when he would have a seizure and would stop and not move. At first he wasn't sure why until he felt the seizure coming on and dismounted. He knew then not to question her.
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        09-01-2013, 09:55 PM
      #25
    Weanling
    She seems to know what she is doing.

    Lots of people choose to ride bareback over jumps without helmets. I've certainly seen Parelli do it and I'm sure he isn't the first.

    I taught my horse to spanish walk. We do liberty work, and I taught her to free jump, turn and come back to me. We also play together. She'll chase me sometimes and run around, but never any bucking/kicking at me. She is respectful and we are bonded.

    I think without having that bond/trust/respect relationship you cannot excel as partners. I don't see having a bond and having respect as mutually exclusive.

    As a child I used to ride bareback and bridleless over jumps, but I always wore a helmet. I never fell off doing that either. Safe enough depending on the horse. It is more dangerous to ride a horse you don't know than it is to ride a horse you know well and trust.

    I would hope any 13 yr old watching the video would at least have a trainer or some coaching, or a really bomb proof horse. Besides I really hope most people don't buy their kids stallions!
         
        09-01-2013, 10:14 PM
      #26
    Started
    Scary video in a way- there is a lot of potential for someone to try to imitate it and wind up severely injured (remember the one vid where the girl gets kicked in the face?) BUT that doesn't mean she shouldn't be posting things. It seems like the horse respects her bubble and is attentive to her signals, especially the 'game over' one.

    I certainly see the appeal, as I will play with my horse in a way, eg, if he's been cooped up in a stall due to weather, I'll turn him out in the arena and 'chase' him. I carry a lunge whip to actually drive him off if he were to get too close, but he always keeps his bucking and bouncing well out of range and seems to enjoy the long distance version of tag. I play the same game with my dogs... not that that's a particularly better idea either, though it is generally safer.

    I think the 'someone might imitate this and get hurt' thing is sometimes taken too far in the modern day. At some point people need to be responsible for their own and their childrens' or charges' safety. If a child isn't old enough to either know better or take responsibility, maybe they shouldn't be unsupervised with a horse.
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        09-01-2013, 10:45 PM
      #27
    Weanling
    I don't know?? For me... If a horse was to act like that against my will; me and that horse would be spending ALOT of time in a round pin. It looks like she is asking her horse to do what it is doing. For me I would not train a horse to act that way. However that's me, what she dose as long as she has rules that the horse knows and understands then she is setting the rules. Safe or not safe?? Who can say, not me. People would say that places I have ridden and things I have done might be called "unsafe" ridding is not a "safe" activity. To look at one short video to say she is or is not "safe", I can't say.
    I can say, I personally would not train a horse to do what that horse is doing. But, that's more of a I see no need to be able to have a horse do that in my day to day life. I train horse to work for me and help me make the jobs I do easier. Playing like this I don't have time for. She, does.
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        09-01-2013, 11:22 PM
      #28
    Yearling
    Since I've seen her videos and know she's experienced I would say its okay. To an inexperienced rider, I would say no.

    I play with my horse here and there. She keeps a respectable distance. I will dart across the arena and she will trot/canter after me and we'll play a bit. However she really knows when to stop. The second I stop and walk away, and change my body language, she stops playing and walks up to me normally and leads. She doesn't bother to try and keep playing, she never has, she knows when to quit. I would say when a horse acts like that and has respect for you then I would say why not! Just be mindful of what you're doing.

    There are some things with horses that there are human limits to. Playing is one of those things and shouldn't be taken lightly. While two horses playing can kick each other and be perfectly fine, if a horse were to kick a human because it was playing (and not being disrespectful) we're pretty much a broken bag of skin and bones. Which is always why you need to keep a respectable distance between you and the horse and have your horse's respect. If you don't you're just digging a hole for yourself.
         
        09-01-2013, 11:34 PM
      #29
    Showing
    I suppose I'm in the group that cringes whenever I see something like that. I'm sure she does know her stuff and is in control of her horse, but she's encouraging others to "play" with their horses.


    And we all know how that turns out the majority of the time....
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        09-01-2013, 11:48 PM
      #30
    Yearling
    Thank you Smrobs for posting that.
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