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    07-04-2012, 05:18 PM
  #1
Foal
Dream Horse Developed A Problem

Hello, Before I get to my problem here is some infor you may need to know:

HORSE ONE: I have a 7 year old, pain/through breed/saddle breed mare. She has one eye and was rescued from Outback Jacks Horse Rescue a few years ago. I have done all her tanning me self (I train ande exercise horses fro other people) My horse dose it all. She is a very high strung sport horse.

HORSE TWO: I also have a 14 year old appalos mare. She was adopted from the BC Interior Horse Rescue Scociety. She is calmer and timid. She shys away from alot but is also very willing. She has done a lot les then "Horse one"

Problem: I was throughn from horse one about 3 weeks ago. I have never been through by that horse before. She has reared right up and over, bucked before, even fell over well I was riddinh her a few time and never once had I come off. Anyway I got a concution and was unable to ride her for a about a week and a half. Normaly she is ridden every day for 3 hrs. I have since been on her and started her back up on her tranning scedual. She still really freaks out though when we come to the part on the trail were she had throughn me. I rode out there one horse two, to see if there was something there that might of spooked horse one. Nothing, not a single sppok or jump from horse two. She was calm like normal. So I went back to the barn and ponyed horse one out to the spot were she through me. She started to freak out agin, well horse two was as calm as calm could be.

I've tried all sorts of stuff and I'm almost at my wits end. Dose any one have any sugestions as to what may be causing her to act this way, or of someway I can get her to stop.
Please keep in mind Horse one is a very high strung sport horse, who has getup and go on her mind all the time, everything to her when I work with her is a game.

Plase help, anybody.
     
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    07-04-2012, 05:22 PM
  #2
Green Broke
Before I read this all just a suggestion to use a spell check. It's very hard to read through your whole thread.
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    07-04-2012, 07:17 PM
  #3
Foal
Hey, I am sorry that you got a concussion. I recommend making sure that you are 100% cleared by your doctor before trying any of these suggestions, and staying safe with a helmet and safety vest.
First of all, kudos to you for rescuing her. Unfortunately rescues can be really tough.
Here's some advice.
First of all, train her to flex on the ground. Then, train her to do a one-rein stop under saddle. This is a vid explaining how. Then, teach her to yield her hindquarters so that you can do a one-rein and a yield of the hindquarters when you feel like she is about to react.
This is the result that you should have. This vid explains how to deal with misbehaving horses.
Practice all of this before going to that spot where you think she will react.
Then, once you have control of her when she's about to freak out, deal with what's making her act up: is it disrespect? Is she in pain? Is she scared?
If you think she's scared I'd recommend hand-walking her out to that spot before you do any of this, but make sure she's respectful and out of your space before so she doesn't run you over in fear. Make sure she knows how to back up.
Hope this helped. Let me know how it goes! Let me know if you want anything clarified as well.
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    07-04-2012, 10:42 PM
  #4
Foal
I am very sorry about the spelling I was in a bit of a hurry at the time. I was given the 100% go a head form my doctor 5 days after my concussion I waited a week and a half to ride though to make sure. Thank you for giving me Kudos for getting my horses from rescues. No one had done anything with her until she came to the rescue. She came from a breeder, who I've meet a few times and they are very kind to there horses, so she has no bad past.
I have lots of control over her in the pasture and out of the pasture, except in the on spot. She is respecting me at the spot on the trail, and trying not to hurt me. She seems to just want to be away from the spot were she through me. I can be on her about 6 feet way from the spot on the trail and she's fine. Its just in that particular spot. I am going to try a few more things and see what that dose. I can tell you were you can see me ridding her before I got my concussion, if you think that would be of some help. I am a trainer and have worked with a few rescue cases, and a few aggressing and spooky cases. I have not had a case like this before. Witch is why I’m looking for some help and suggestions.
     
    07-05-2012, 01:22 AM
  #5
Trained
Hi,

Without knowing how you train, I don't know what 'holes' or problems there may be in the training generally, but if the horse is 'flighty', has a history of rearing & bucking, I'd think it's definitely worth going back to the basics & work out what you've missed - IMO a horse like that is not ready to go out on the trail. Regarding the falling over on you, I'd also get her thoroughly checked out physically & consider her feet &/or saddle may be a prob too.

Regarding that specific spot on the trail, I wouldn't say she respects you, or she'd trust you to look out for her. Something either frightened or hurt her at that spot, so you need to prove to her it's safe & you'll protect her from any 'scaries'. A good foundation will teach her to trust you generally, then when you get there, just do the same sort of stuff as you do in desensitising her to other 'scaries' - repetition & gradual improvement without being confrontational about it.
     
    07-05-2012, 10:53 AM
  #6
Foal
I agree with Loosie. I don't doubt your training methods at all, but no matter how well-trained a horse is it never hurts to go back to the basics, and even if she's scared in that spot those exercises will help you gain control of her feet. And it helps to practice them in the ring BEFORE, when she's good, so that when you hit that spot again you won't have a problem getting her to listen :)
I am all about rescuing horses and I respect anyone who does. I also know how tricky it can be. You never know what they have been through.
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    09-06-2012, 08:44 PM
  #7
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Running Hooves    
Hello, Before I get to my problem here is some infor you may need to know:

HORSE ONE: I have a 7 year old, pain/through breed/saddle breed mare. She has one eye and was rescued from Outback Jacks Horse Rescue a few years ago. I have done all her tanning me self (I train ande exercise horses fro other people) My horse dose it all. She is a very high strung sport horse.

HORSE TWO: I also have a 14 year old appalos mare. She was adopted from the BC Interior Horse Rescue Scociety. She is calmer and timid. She shys away from alot but is also very willing. She has done a lot les then "Horse one"

Problem: I was throughn from horse one about 3 weeks ago. I have never been through by that horse before. She has reared right up and over, bucked before, even fell over well I was riddinh her a few time and never once had I come off. Anyway I got a concution and was unable to ride her for a about a week and a half. Normaly she is ridden every day for 3 hrs. I have since been on her and started her back up on her tranning scedual. She still really freaks out though when we come to the part on the trail were she had throughn me. I rode out there one horse two, to see if there was something there that might of spooked horse one. Nothing, not a single sppok or jump from horse two. She was calm like normal. So I went back to the barn and ponyed horse one out to the spot were she through me. She started to freak out agin, well horse two was as calm as calm could be.

I've tried all sorts of stuff and I'm almost at my wits end. Dose any one have any sugestions as to what may be causing her to act this way, or of someway I can get her to stop.
Please keep in mind Horse one is a very high strung sport horse, who has getup and go on her mind all the time, everything to her when I work with her is a game.

Plase help, anybody.
Perhaps it was out of her character to have thrown you and maybe she suffers from trauma or guilt at that very spot. Perhaps restarting her with join up techniques in a different section, away from the scene of crime would help her to know that you're okay.
     
    09-07-2012, 04:08 AM
  #8
Weanling
What if you were to ride her out to that spot every day you can, and make a routine of dismounting at the spot where she freaks out, bringing a knapsack with some treats for you and some treats for yourself, and just standing there and doing little else but enjoying the beautiful scenery along with your respective snacks. Maybe bring a brush with you and stop and groom her a bit, just make it a pleasant little "rest area" instead of a trauma memory. It may take some time to break down the bad memory and insert a positive one, and in the future she may simply stop and expect a treat and a break LOL but it may work. For both of you.

And a thank you from me as well for taking in some needy horses.
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    09-07-2012, 04:29 AM
  #9
Trained
I suspect this is a rider issue, not a horse issue. OP, you are more than likely tensing and remembering your fall when you get to that part of the trail. You now expect her to freak out, which feeds the problem. If you expect it, it will happen.

I read a post (I believe it was on this forum, it may have been an article elsewhere) recently, regarding a test of 'spookyness' in horses. A number of horses were led around the arena 3 or 4 times by their handlers. None spooked, or had any adverse reactions to their surroundings. The handleres were then told that next time they walked down the long side, people would jump up and open and close brightly coloured umbrellas.

Around they went again, in a line, and nobody jumped out, but every horse spooked.
Because the handlers were expecting the horse to spook at that location.

Unfortunately it would be unethical of me to tell you to have a stiff drink before you ride out to get you relaxed! So I think you're going to have to work through this yourself, distracting yourself, riding out with a friend on a calm horse past that spot, hundreds of times, until you forget to expect.
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    09-07-2012, 02:00 PM
  #10
Weanling
I've recently gone through a similar experience. My horse is extremely nervous by nature and we have, over the period of two years, worked up to going on short trail rides with him staying very calm and under control, even in potentially spooky situations, but about a month ago a deer spooked him on the trail and I got thrown. Now we are back at square one for both of us, the spot where I was thrown is in sight of my arena and even riding past it in the arena will cause him to look and tense up slightly at the beginning of each ride. His nerves are definitely feeding my own nervousness, we have gone on a couple trail rides since I was thrown and he hasn't had any major spooks, but it isn't the nice relaxed hack out we were both enjoying before. It feels like we are both on high alert, and I know when he is in that mode it doesn't take much to set him off.

So, my advice to you is to be very aware of both your emotions and your horse's at every step of your ride, if you feel nerves building in either one of you, back away from that spot and ride in a circle until calm returns. Circling near a spooky place has the effect of approach and retreat, one part of your circle will be near the scary area, you teach the horse it is OK to get near it, we will leave soon, by doing repeated circles the horse gets more comfortable and will eventually be willing to go through a scary spot because they don't feel like they are going to be "trapped" there. The more nervous, the smaller the circle should be, as confidence returns, grow the size of your circle.
     

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