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    06-15-2012, 02:25 PM
  #31
Yearling
     
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    06-15-2012, 02:29 PM
  #32
Foal
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    06-15-2012, 02:38 PM
  #33
Weanling
Just watched the video Andi posted. Laying on the ground in front of your horse on your back....yeah that is intelligent!

Can we say "horse tricks" for the video horse? It looked like it was all tricks based on hand signals to me.
     
    06-15-2012, 02:42 PM
  #34
Foal
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Originally Posted by DressageDreamer    
Just watched the video Andi posted. Laying on the ground in front of your horse on your back....yeah that is intelligent!

Can we say "horse tricks" for the video horse? It looked like it was all tricks based on hand signals to me.
Thank you, Dressage! I thought that too, I became suspicious, as the video(s) are ALL such poor quality, and so (can we say?) contrived?
     
    06-15-2012, 02:45 PM
  #35
Foal
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Originally Posted by longshot    
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    06-15-2012, 03:15 PM
  #36
Yearling
This got me rolling, seriously? Haha here are there so to speak "commandments"


#1. Every horse that was ever born was born a perfect horse. He was not born an obstinate, stupid beast destined to exasperate, frustrate or hurt humans. He was born a perfect horse.
#2. It is human intervention and the horse's reactions to that intervention by using traditional training methods that force him to resist, dislike, mistrust, despise and/or hate humans.
#3. If we use methods of training that are identical to the ones he uses to establish and maintain his herd rank, he will react accordingly.
#4. If we use methods of interaction that duplicate how two horses create an intimate, trusting friendship, he will react accordingly.
#5. There is no such thing as a bad horse. There are spirited horses that resist being forced to do something. There are abused horses that have learned to hate humans. There are horses that cannot tolerate the illogic of ground and mounted activities with humans. There are fair-minded, sensible horses that detest humans because their owner does not understand them. There are horses that do not want to leave the security of the herd because they have no trust or confidence in their rider's survival judgment. And there are horses that have never learned that a human can be a trusted friend. But there is no such thing as a bad horse.
#6. No two horses have the same mental capabilities, emotional capacity or personality. But all horses use the same sequential steps to establish a trusting, harmonious, intimate relationship that they do not share with any other horses in the herd.
#7. A horse cannot “be all that he can be” for us (or all that we want him to be) if his only motivation is being treated like a slave or simple beast of burden that was forced into submission and servitude.
#8. If you limit your knowledge to methods of dominance and submission, your understanding of the Horse will be limited to his reaction to those methods of dominance and submission.
#9. The key to a truly successful interspecies partnership with the Horse is respecting and understanding the emotions and instincts that govern every waking moment of his life.
#10. I have met the enemy, and it was not the Horse, as I had first thought. The enemy was my lack of understanding and compassion.
     
    06-15-2012, 03:21 PM
  #37
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Annanoel    
This got me rolling, seriously? Haha here are there so to speak "commandments"


#1. Every horse that was ever born was born a perfect horse. He was not born an obstinate, stupid beast destined to exasperate, frustrate or hurt humans. He was born a perfect horse.
#2. It is human intervention and the horse's reactions to that intervention by using traditional training methods that force him to resist, dislike, mistrust, despise and/or hate humans.
#3. If we use methods of training that are identical to the ones he uses to establish and maintain his herd rank, he will react accordingly.
#4. If we use methods of interaction that duplicate how two horses create an intimate, trusting friendship, he will react accordingly.
#5. There is no such thing as a bad horse. There are spirited horses that resist being forced to do something. There are abused horses that have learned to hate humans. There are horses that cannot tolerate the illogic of ground and mounted activities with humans. There are fair-minded, sensible horses that detest humans because their owner does not understand them. There are horses that do not want to leave the security of the herd because they have no trust or confidence in their rider's survival judgment. And there are horses that have never learned that a human can be a trusted friend. But there is no such thing as a bad horse.
#6. No two horses have the same mental capabilities, emotional capacity or personality. But all horses use the same sequential steps to establish a trusting, harmonious, intimate relationship that they do not share with any other horses in the herd.
#7. A horse cannot “be all that he can be” for us (or all that we want him to be) if his only motivation is being treated like a slave or simple beast of burden that was forced into submission and servitude.
#8. If you limit your knowledge to methods of dominance and submission, your understanding of the Horse will be limited to his reaction to those methods of dominance and submission.
#9. The key to a truly successful interspecies partnership with the Horse is respecting and understanding the emotions and instincts that govern every waking moment of his life.
#10. I have met the enemy, and it was not the Horse, as I had first thought. The enemy was my lack of understanding and compassion.
if you dust all the flowers and fairy sprinkles off of this, isnt it the same basic principles as natural horsemanship?
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    06-15-2012, 03:21 PM
  #38
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Annanoel    
#3. If we use methods of training that are identical to the ones he uses to establish and maintain his herd rank, he will react accordingly.
#4. If we use methods of interaction that duplicate how two horses create an intimate, trusting friendship, he will react accordingly.
Without any teaching at all I did this when I was young... kick them as hard as I can in the gut/chest and bite them on the withers!! Woo hoo I invented this!! I want royalties!!
     
    06-15-2012, 03:28 PM
  #39
Weanling
Longshot - yeah I know! So I need to pull back my ears and chase the hell out of them. Bite them on the butt. Kick whenever they get too close. Squeel like a pig if they don't act quite right or they smell funny. I have to chew their mane and groom them with my teeth. Maybe it's like using dental floss????
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    06-15-2012, 03:32 PM
  #40
Showing
Yup, we had a thread on this a while back. Just plain scary....

Friendship Training ?????
     

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