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post #91 of 129 Old 04-27-2013, 12:36 AM
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One thing I would like to say is when your lunging your horse make your shoulders a wall towards his barrel, level with his shoulders & hip. Stay still, in the middle..
If any horse threatens you, threaten them back!
When your horse came around you.... You gave him a open invitation to come into your space, if that happens step at him, arms up & scream YO!!! & check his ass right back out in that circle!!

I would definitely try to start making his lounging a bit more mentally fun for him.
Try working all different transitions (walk, trot, canter, stop backing, turning) faster, slower. The more you make his feet move the more attention he has on you!!

When you start lounging, send him right off in that circle, dont give him a moment to think about anything but you! even when his head pulls your arm away, give him a tug back & send him off in a different direction, or make him change transitions. Make him think about distracting away from you again! or make him work for it.

&&&& for the girth!!!!
Start off slowly, like one little hole at a time if you have to, everything is baby steps! if you can put a saddle on his back & take the girth around his belly and he is fine about all that but the moment you zip up that girth he brings his head around to nip you, you maybe doing it to fast and tight.

Bring the girth up super slowly slowly & softly to see where he starts bending his ear towards you or OR JUST BEFORE that moment when you know he turns in to nip, EVEN going slow and soft just STOP & clip it there. walk away. He will be SOO confused!!! If he was tense he will drop it & be left thinking.

See you have the power to give and take pressure.
If you know the second before he will do something, leave it just right there & step away, he will take a breath and be relieved.
After he stands for a minute return, pet him & start just handling and fondling the girth, dont bring it up just play with it & wiggle it.
because here your not tightening it your just testing the waters & his attitude.
If he turns & bends in a inch to nip crack him one before he even know what hit him!
After that, try to bring up your girth, again softly and slowly up the next hole or two. If that doesnt work I would put him on the lounge line & if he tride to nip again I would back him to the moon every nippin chance he tried to get!

Your working baby steps & testing his boundaries & catching him before he can react...

He sounds like a sneaky little boy & you may just have to get one step a head.
A Lot of horse language is needed
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post #92 of 129 Old 04-27-2013, 03:31 AM Thread Starter
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yeap he is very sneaky, esp when he turned all of a sudden,

i rode him today,i put the martingles back on him to stop him rising his head like a turkey, he didnt like it lolafter 30 mins i got a full circle with just trot without him jumping around, so i left it as that being the good note
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If you need a martingale he has bit problems or your hands. When you next ride, keep him circling starting with 10' circles. Keep him bent but do not put continual pressure on the bit. Open and close your fingers in a rhythmic fashion. Go both ways. Only when he will keep his head down do you enlarge the circle a bit to make it more comfortable for him. If his head shoots up go back to the smaller circles. A loose ring snaffle with an iron mouth is a good bit to use to teach him lightness.
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the top bit is his old bit, the bottom bit is the one i use now,

i was doing circles both ways,i can say tho, he wasnt rushing towards gate

see without martingles on, he raises head, usually thats the indicater hes about to do somthing stupid,

this first vid was my very very first time ever on him u can see the lack of control i had of him, very embarrassing tho

and now

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he bridled PERFECT! today, lunged him in morning took off to an iffy start, but by the end he did great,, we did 20 mins lunging today!, around 3pm i rode he was great! bridled great, walked great listened alot more, his trot was aweful wasnt his true trot, was a naughty trot,, but we got a full arena trot, even tho it wasnt a real trot he still done it without fighting, he even collected SHOCK he hasnt done that for ages! only collected for like 5 mins, but he done it yay, dont know what tomorow will bring lol but today he was great
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post #97 of 129 Old 04-28-2013, 06:33 AM
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Sorry if someone has already said this but the first thing i'd do is chuck out the webbing halter and the light lunge lead you're using. Get a rope halter and a heavy lead that won't stretch and has some weight in it. You'll have much better control. Plus maybe find someone who can give you and him some lungeing lessons so you start working together :)

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post #98 of 129 Old 04-28-2013, 06:40 AM Thread Starter
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it is a rope halter?...this is the exact one i use,, only type he doesnt seem to snap

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Each to their own but I would never lunge a horse in anything but a good fitting, preferably padded leather headcollar (UK speak for halter) or lunging cavesson
IMO a rope halter is going to move around too much on a horse that doesn't quite understand what its supposed to be going and more likely to rub the face
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post #100 of 129 Old 04-28-2013, 01:47 PM
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I use a rope halter for lunging. I find that if it's tied correctly, it actually send signals that are much clearer that a wide halter. Plus it has the added benefit of keeping a stronger horse from leaning or bracing on the halter, since it is uncomfortable for them to do so. They have to learn to carry themselves. I have never had one rub, or even leave a mark, or be confusing.
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