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        04-26-2013, 01:20 AM
      #81
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    Take baby steps. Try to accomplish one thing at a time....not everything all at once. Maybe wait for the canter and just work with walk and trot for a while with changes of direction. Once you have him going well that way, step it up to canter. Meanwhile, you will get more comfortable with your equipment and body language. You will also learn how to start reading your horse's body language.
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        04-26-2013, 02:46 AM
      #82
    Weanling
    Yeah will just work on what you suggested he canters wen he throws a tanty lol
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        04-26-2013, 06:54 AM
      #83
    Weanling
    Im glad to say that miover really responds well when I use the word "UH", when he's eating and im rugging him he pins ears, or turns to bite I say "UH" step towards him and he goes back to eating, when lungeing I say "UH" in firm voice when he's about to go down to eat grass he lifts his head up within seconds of saying "UH", sometimes I think he does it purpose to hear the "UH" LOL

    He still has alot of manners to learn, like when grooming and he's had enough he shoves you with his hindquaters as if ur not standing their I usually shove him back to stand where I want himn to stand,, he's not a kicker but im sure he is capable of it, but he's never threatened it, I can stand behined him and play with his tail...his belly is what he hates. He's slowely tolerating it from me.

    Teehee I cleaned out his water yesterday, and he came over and was sticking his head under the hose...he LOVES the hose esp on face, just on the cheek near his side of mouth, I swear he's like a huge dog lol
         
        04-26-2013, 09:24 AM
      #84
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    That was a lot better.
    You led him in like you meant business and so positive from you from the start
    He sounds like he's basically a really nice horse and just needs challenging a bit so yes use trotting poles and even get some cones and do stuff like leading him in and out of them and backing up between them - anything to keep his mind occupied
    Energize your own body language as he'll pick up on that too - not threatening but encouraging. While I was watching you on that video I felt like I wanted to bounce up and down on the spot to somehow liven everything up a bit
         
        04-26-2013, 10:39 AM
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    Yes, I agree with Jaydee....match your body language to what you are asking of the horse. Don't sit like a bump on the log if you want him to move. Moving towards him is predatory and backing away means submissive. If you want more energy, bring your energy up with your movements and body language...you get bigger essentially. When you want his energy to come down/slow down, bring your energy down and sink into yourself....making your self smaller. Remember to give him a chance and ask him first to do what you want, increasing that pressure if he doesn't respond. Once he responds, immediately release the pressure as reward. He will also learn verbal cues...so what ever words work....use them consistently.

    NEVER punish and hold a grudge. If you have to correct...be firm, but fair....then let it all go and act like you are whistling a tune and nothing ever happend.
         
        04-26-2013, 10:51 AM
      #86
    Green Broke
    ^^^^ This! I cannot "like" this enough!
         
        04-26-2013, 01:09 PM
      #87
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    Originally Posted by Oldhorselady    
    Yes, I agree with Jaydee....match your body language to what you are asking of the horse. Don't sit like a bump on the log if you want him to move. Moving towards him is predatory and backing away means submissive. If you want more energy, bring your energy up with your movements and body language...you get bigger essentially. When you want his energy to come down/slow down, bring your energy down and sink into yourself....making your self smaller. Remember to give him a chance and ask him first to do what you want, increasing that pressure if he doesn't respond. Once he responds, immediately release the pressure as reward. He will also learn verbal cues...so what ever words work....use them consistently.

    NEVER punish and hold a grudge. If you have to correct...be firm, but fair....then let it all go and act like you are whistling a tune and nothing ever happend.
    I so love it when other people make sense out of what I'm wittering on about and then explain it so much better than I can!!!
    It means that I'm not talking total gibberish. My brain feels like scrambled eggs these days. I should never have volunteered to be my husbands underpaid Admin!!
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        04-26-2013, 01:38 PM
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    Yes. That's a good explanation. Especially about having your body mirror your intention. If you want him to go, there should be "go" energy in your body. YOu stand more upright, your chest sticks out a bit, you kind of have a "lift" in your step. For the "slow down" you do the opposite, as OHL said, you kind of sink into yourself and emphasize the outward breath. It's you showing through your body the intention in your mind.

    If you want him to canter, when you ask for that, have a real committment in your mind of "Canter!" and raise the energy in your body . HE willl feel this. He may play up a bit, essentially tantrumming, but that does not matter. Just stay true on your course of directing him to do what you asked. His tantrum is his releaseing of the resistance. Let him release it if he must, but do NOT stop what you are asking just becuase he is upset. That will only teach him to play up and tantrum MORE. Stay calm and go through with the request. You just keep asking , no harder, no softer, until he move on. Then like OHL said, continue as if nothing happened.


    I think you should learn how to "send" this horse places. It's basically making him move away from you., and to where you direct him. This might be considered a "game" by some,. Since Parelli uses it. I don't 'know what he calls it, but you start sending the horse over to a barrel or a stump or something, and you can put a small treat there. (put it there ahead of time) you don't treat him by hand, and you dont' treat very often, but the idea is to sharpen your ability and his willingness to be sent away from you but still be mentally "on line".
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        04-26-2013, 06:51 PM
      #89
    Weanling
    Awwe I couldn't hold a grudge against him lol he such a lovely horse ,lol I was practicing tone of tree rot lol . You would never have thought there was so much into lunging . He listens really well when I say " UH" which is good
         
        04-26-2013, 08:58 PM
      #90
    Weanling

    My time with miover <3
         

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