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post #1 of 9 Old 04-02-2012, 04:15 PM Thread Starter
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Horse Shaking Head and Taking off Scared of Carrot Stick

I am training my best friends horse for her since she know's nothing about horses. She has a 4 year old Thoroughbred Frieberger cross. He is very well mannered and mostly lazy. I was taught to use natural horsemanship and many tools from pat Parelli. Her horse is Very scared of the carrot stick or lunge whip. He doesn't lunge on line very well, and if he does he just shakes his head and doesn't want to go, then he takes off with his outside shoulder and runs. My friend has many times let him go, which i have repeatily told her not to do that. He has a great personality, but no respect. What should I do to stop this running off and shaking his head? I am going to try using a bridle while lunging and I have not used a nose chain before. Please help!
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post #2 of 9 Old 04-02-2012, 04:24 PM
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Have you not done the desensitization and seven games yet?

EDIT: Or free lunging in a round pen to get him to pay attention to you? Join-up? Etc? Think you're missing steps...
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Yes I have. He is only 4 and has not been trained to do seven games. I have done free lunging with him and starting to do tie up. I really just want him to be not scared of the carrot stick or lunge whip so i could use that to move him forward... think that will help alot! Thanks for the help!
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My Mini used to do the take off with the shoulder and run thing, that can be a very frustrating problem when it becomes a habit! To stop it, get the horse really good at disengaging his hip so you can get him to bring his face back towards you before he takes off. Also you will need to teach him to yield better to pressure on the lunge line, start while he is still and ask him to bend his head towards you then do it at a walk, it should help greatly with his lunging.

As for being afraid of the carrot stick, will he just let you pet him with the stick? Once you can pet him with the stick, then try gently moving it in the air while walking away from him(him following you) when he is ok with that then try swinging it with more energy and closer to him using approach and retreat to desensitise him.

I wouldn't worry too much about the head shaking right now, head tossing is often a sign of dominance, and from what you've written I get the impression the horse thinks he's in charge. If you fix the problems with his lunging he should gain more respect for you and the head tossing should go away.

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Thank You. He will allow me to touch him with the carrot stick, but he really is skitish about it... he ran over his owners foot when i began to do down his back.
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My gelding is 5 and to this day he does not like a lunge whip, he has been desensitised to it over and over. I usually just use my hand like I'm holding one. When you lunge him on a line do you attach the lunge rope to his chin area or to the side of his cheek, of his halter? I find I have a lot more control in the beginning of learning to lunge if I attach to his cheek area of the halter. It's a pain to stop and switch sides to go the other direction, but if they stop paying attention to me I just sort of wiggle the rope and it usually focuses them on me.
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post #7 of 9 Old 04-04-2012, 04:11 PM
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You should have him on the robe and get him used to the stick, lots of friendly stuff and swing it over his back and pay attention to your body language, always look friendly and smile if you swing the carrot stick around him without wanting him to do something. Another idea is to get an old carrot stick and just let it in the pasture for a few days, maybe close to the food so he sees that it is not going to do anything bad to him. We have a horse that is really sensetive to the sticks and it took a while to get him used to it and it is really important for the horse to know the difference when you want to use the stick to make him do something or to just take the "playing friendly" it might be time consuming, but hey, thats how it goes with horses :0) Good luck!!!
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i would work on getting him comfortable with the stick before you try to lunge him with it. i would start by letting him sniff if, then hold it up to his neck. if he wants to move around, thats fine, just follow him. i like to do this in a round pen so they cant really go very far. dont jerk on the lead rope or anything, just let him move his feet. dont take the stick off of his neck until he decides to stand still and relax - chewing, head down, etc. as soon has he relaxes,take the stick away from his neck and praise him. do this over and over until you can flap in around his whole body, as well as hold it places like his back, legs, hindquarters, top of his head, everywhere !

after he is comfortable with the stick, i would start teaching him to yeild his hind and forequarters with it. its pretty hard to teach them to lunge if they dont know how to yeild first.

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