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        07-22-2013, 01:22 AM
      #11
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by Blazeeofglory    
    At what age can you begin to lunge safely?
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    I won't lunge a horse under 2 years old. I will take them on trail rides and pony them off another horse or I'll take them out and pony them off my quad, in long straight lines with BIG sweeping turns.
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        07-22-2013, 01:53 AM
      #12
    Super Moderator
    Without sounding as a Parelli basher, I would say to take it very easy on your "games" work with the baby. You can really wear a horse out with them, and sour them to the whole thing with too much of this sort of thing . Pat himself says that the 7 games are just for a short period of time to get you to move on to things more directly related to riding, and he does not encourage people to stay a long time in this phase. STarting it now will have the possiblity of eventually kind of dulling your horse to them, I fear.

    In many places where horsemanship is an ancient art horses are allowed to be horses until they are at least 2, handled for a few months, then put back out to just be young and then brought back in for real training when they are more like 3. So., if in doubt, give your horse time to be a baby. It'll pay off in the end, I think.
         
        07-22-2013, 05:59 AM
      #13
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Blazeeofglory    
    I cannot get my lil guy to yield his front/rear end. All of the pressure from my fingers does not make him budge. I am using the hair,skin,muscle,bone technique and he seriously does not move. I may use an object to put equal pressure instead of my fingers... Ill try that tomorrow.
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    Not saying that this will or won't be the case for you, but not all horses respond well to those "games".
    I've seen horses that just don't respond well to some techniques (games) Parelli uses/promotes. Even to the point of becoming dangerously agitated.

    If your horse isn't responding you are perfectly capable of coming up with some other way to get it to respond (but you seem to already be thinking that way). Remember that for the horse it's first about understanding what you're asking it to do and than wanting to do it.
    It can easily not understand what your asking so try asking in a different way. Reward even the smallest success (e.g. If you want him to back up even on step backwards is a success so stop and reward). He'll soon pick up on what you want (even if it's by small amounts) and want to earn rewards.
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        07-22-2013, 08:27 AM
      #14
    Showing
    To help him yield his hindquarters, draw his head in an arc closer to your hip, while you touch his hip. Because he is bent he will be more inclined to ship his hips away. Work on one side only until he's good at yielding. Be sure to bend at the waist slightly when asking him to yield otherwise he will yield when you don't want him to.
         
        07-22-2013, 11:52 AM
      #15
    Foal
    For lunging, would it be okay to just have him going in large circles just at a walk? He seems so curious and wants to learn, so I want to try different things so he doesnt get too bored. But I also don't want to do anything that will affect him in a negative way.
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        07-22-2013, 11:55 AM
      #16
    Trained
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    Originally Posted by Blazeeofglory    
    For lunging, would it be okay to just have him going in large circles just at a walk? He seems so curious and wants to learn, so I want to try different things so he doesnt get too bored. But I also don't want to do anything that will affect him in a negative way.
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    Take him for a walk on a lead. He'll see lots, learn lots on the way. Walking in a big circle, on a long lunge line won't hurt but it won't teach him as much as just going for a walk with you will.
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        07-24-2013, 01:08 PM
      #17
    Yearling
    If he won't move his shoulders, it's a possibility he can't. At 10 months old he may be in a funky development stage where it's just not possible for him to manipulate his body that way. The shoulders are harder to move around then the hips so if he just won't, wait on that part of his body until he grows up a little more.

    I would be very careful at to the intensity of your ground work with a baby. Halter break him, take him for walks, brush and work with his feet.
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        07-24-2013, 05:11 PM
      #18
    Foal
    He is halter broken.. Leads great... Great for farrier and grooming... Very well sacked out. I suppose I can't ask too much more of the little guy... Just trying to build a great foundation!
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        07-24-2013, 05:42 PM
      #19
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Blazeeofglory    
    He is halter broken.. Leads great... Great for farrier and grooming... Very well sacked out. I suppose I can't ask too much more of the little guy... Just trying to build a great foundation!
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    The let him be a baby. No reason to rush.
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        07-27-2013, 03:48 AM
      #20
    Started
    Never too young to start really. I'd just say when he's young, when he puts an effort in towards what you want, leave it there for a while and go do something else so he doesn't get bored of it because hat's the easiest way to sour a horse. Also, I would personally recommend to do what pat calls the circling game instead of lungeing. I myself use it, and it teaches your horse to connect more with you. Since talking about Pat is a touchy subject, I don't think I can really explain more/better as to why I would recommend the circling game over lungeing
         

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