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    09-10-2010, 12:35 PM
  #11
Weanling
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Originally Posted by nrhareiner    
And yours???? Same thing inquiring minds want to know.
for me I want to(repaet I want to) start with less than work my way up if needed, as little as it takes.
Same as a bit, my thinking I don't start with a spade.
Just curious, it has worked for me.
And I got it from others, if I use names I am getting beat up littlle. So no more!
Thank you,

What do you do? Yourself use one? Serious?
     
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    09-10-2010, 12:42 PM
  #12
Trained
No I am not a bosal person. Start with a snaffle and once they are working in that they move into the bridle. NRHA has no snaffle or Hack/bosal classes for the most part. So there is no reason to use one.

When I have used them way in the past and also with just about everyone I know who does use them if they show the NRCHA futurity. They start in the snaffle and the Bosal is a middle ground then into the bridle as the horse ages and experience expands. They are not started in one.
     
    09-10-2010, 12:48 PM
  #13
Weanling
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Originally Posted by nrhareiner    
No I am not a bosal person. Start with a snaffle and once they are working in that they move into the bridle. NRHA has no snaffle or Hack/bosal classes for the most part. So there is no reason to use one.

When I have used them way in the past and also with just about everyone I know who does use them if they show the NRCHA futurity. They start in the snaffle and the Bosal is a middle ground then into the bridle as the horse ages and experience expands. They are not started in one.
i have shown Nrcha and maybe it is a little different, I know they need to be really broke(for me in the snaffle), before I go to the Hackamore
     
    09-10-2010, 12:57 PM
  #14
Trained
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Originally Posted by nobody2121    
i have shown Nrcha and maybe it is a little different, I know they need to be really broke(for me in the snaffle), before I go to the Hackamore
Yes I agree the Hack/Bosal is not something you start a horse in. Most when they use them are a middle ground. After the snaffle before the bridle. Some will even put the snaffle under the bosal for the transition. It is a good way to work on neck reining and such.

Yes NRCHA is different then the NRHA. At the futurity level. Every so often you will find a Futurity Class that shows in the Snaffle or Bosal your choice but they are few and fare between. The NRHA Futurity is in the bridle and one handed. So most of the smaller futurities are the same as most use them as a warm up to the big show.

Once the horse is out of the aged even in NRCHA they must be in a bridle. I do not even think if I remembering the rules correctly that past the futurities they have to be in the bridle. There are a few other difference in what is commonly used in tack between the NRCHA and the NRHA.
     
    09-10-2010, 01:34 PM
  #15
Weanling
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Originally Posted by nrhareiner    
Yes I agree the Hack/Bosal is not something you start a horse in. Most when they use them are a middle ground. After the snaffle before the bridle. Some will even put the snaffle under the bosal for the transition. It is a good way to work on neck reining and such.

Yes NRCHA is different then the NRHA. At the futurity level. Every so often you will find a Futurity Class that shows in the Snaffle or Bosal your choice but they are few and fare between. The NRHA Futurity is in the bridle and one handed. So most of the smaller futurities are the same as most use them as a warm up to the big show.

Once the horse is out of the aged even in NRCHA they must be in a bridle. I do not even think if I remembering the rules correctly that past the futurities they have to be in the bridle. There are a few other difference in what is commonly used in tack between the NRCHA and the NRHA.
great points, what I meant was that showing a horse with Hackamore maybe slightly differnt than than , average ranch horse, maybe different, don't know
     
    09-10-2010, 01:35 PM
  #16
Yearling
Many,Many people in my world will start a horse in a Hackamore.
They are skilled Hackamore Reinsmen and understand the pros and cons.

I do not exclusively use just the Hackamore ,but because the title of the thread was the adjustment of the Bosal I limited the discussion to that.

There is a history to the Hackamore and that is what the NRCHA is trying to keep alive.

In the very early days of the Spanish Vaquero the snaffle was not as common as it is today and most of the horses were started in the Hackamore.
     
    09-10-2010, 02:39 PM
  #17
Trained
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Originally Posted by nobody2121    
great points, what I meant was that showing a horse with Hackamore maybe slightly differnt than than , average ranch horse, maybe different, don't know

Oh ya there are quite a bit of difference between what you would do and how you would work a cow in a show vs if you are on a ranch.

On a ranch you do what is needed to get the cow to where you need them get the job done be it branding, banding, vaccinating, de budding them and so on. If you rope them and you do not catch them quite right big deal. You have them if needed you put anouther rope on them and so on. A lot will only heal the cow with a horse and rope.

Then you go to a show. You have a set pattern, strict rules, and so on. If you mark a horse on the ranch you are not going to get DQed from the work and loose a bunch of money. In a show you are out. Big time.

Shows be it for reined cow horse reining or cutting even roping have evolved from ranch work. If you study the history of each event is it quite interesting. Most people do not know a lot of the history behind associations especially ones like NRHA. They only know what they see now.
     
    09-10-2010, 02:49 PM
  #18
Green Broke
Ok so I have a question. My mare doesn't like bits. She does well in a mechanical hackmore, but I really don't like the feel of it when I'm riding. I was told when I bought her that she was ridden in a bosal. Should I try her in one? And how do you tell a soft bosal from a harsher one?
     
    09-10-2010, 07:58 PM
  #19
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Lonestar22    
Ok so I have a question. My mare doesn't like bits. She does well in a mechanical hackmore, but I really don't like the feel of it when I'm riding. I was told when I bought her that she was ridden in a bosal. Should I try her in one? And how do you tell a soft bosal from a harsher one?

I would give it a try and some of the things that would help me decide what one I would use would be if the horse was fine skinned or had a big fuzzy face full of hair or an narrow and fine jawline.

Some of the Bosals are very very soft and they are almost like putting on a rope halter and become ineffective because of a lack of form.

Some are cheap and hard with metal cores and are very rough and will bite at the horses jaw and rub the hair off in minutes.

Just look for comfort but also some contact.
You can add grease to the outside and also wrap the Bosal with tape or vet wrap too.
     
    09-10-2010, 09:20 PM
  #20
Green Broke
I found a bridle I reaaaaaalllly liked. I bought it after I inquired about their return policy and I LOVE it! My mare responds well in it and it's a beautiful bridle. I'm not sure what to call it though. It's like a cross between a bosal and a side pull. Isnt that an Indian Bosal?
     

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