The infulence of Tom and Bill Dorrance.

       The Horse Forum > Training Horses > Natural Horsemanship

The infulence of Tom and Bill Dorrance.

This is a discussion on The infulence of Tom and Bill Dorrance. within the Natural Horsemanship forums, part of the Training Horses category

LinkBack Thread Tools
    10-14-2009, 07:16 PM
The infulence of Tom and Bill Dorrance.

These men gave so much to the idea of a different approach to training a horse and inspired many of the modern trainers.
They lived in a time before computers and DVD videos and mass marketing through the Internet.

Have you been fortunate enough (in the past) to come in contact with one of these men?
Have you read their books or seen any of their videos?
Do you use any of their ideas in your training?

Please talk about some of their ideas and approach to the horse.
Sponsored Links
    10-14-2009, 09:49 PM
No doubt they were very influential. I'm only 20 so I never had the priviledge of meeting them, but I really wish I could have.
    10-14-2009, 11:38 PM
The greatest horseman I have ever met, Ray Hunt, talked with great reverence about Tom Dorrance. Tom gave us the philosophy of teaching horses in a better way. Ray helped give it to the world. The difference between Tom and Ray's way and the current crop of clinicians is that they gave you the why before the how. The clinicians now mostly give you the how in a 5 DVD series for $1000 and leave the why out mostly.
    10-15-2009, 12:03 PM
A few quotes from them and see if they sound familiar.
People have been robbing from them for years and not giving them credit.IMO

From True Unity by Tom Dorrance pg13

"Sometimes the horse doesn't seem to understand,but it doesn't seem to bother him too much. Other horses,if they don't understand-they get bothered all over. So there again,it's the individual variation.
The best thing I try to do for myself is try to listen to the horse.I don't mean let him take over. I listen to how he's operating:what he's understanding or what he doesn't understand;what's bothering him and what isn't bothering him.I try to feel what the horse is feeling and to operate from where the horse is.

This is what I'm trying to get riders to do,to operate from where the horse is instead of trying to operate from where the rider is. Usually the horse is supposed to do everything the rider decides to do.I like to work from where the horse is,to get him to be able to operate wherever and whenever I need him".
    10-15-2009, 09:43 PM
Wise words.
    09-11-2010, 11:19 PM
Very grateful I was able to spend the day with Tom, one to one(and girlfriend).

He had some interesting things to say about Pat Parelli, he did mention he thought he was talented.

He also said with a laugh that he had got into some horses, but always made sure he was the first to pet them and let them they where ok.

Just use as much pressure as needed, but you have to be WILLING to use the pressure needed do get the job done.

He had a quote I wrote done, I will find it and post it.

Ego was the riders big problem.

Stayed relaxed no matter what happened with the horse.
    09-11-2010, 11:53 PM
Marecare, it's so cool that you opened this topic! I love the Dorrance brothers!

Tom was a genius, in many horsemen's eyes. He commanded respect from a horse by his inner wisdom, & had the same effect upon a lot of people.

I didn't meet the Dorrances, but Leslie Desmond is doing a great job in preserving their wisdom.
    09-12-2010, 12:15 AM
So cool that you brought this one up! I was searching for a book by Tom Dorrance to give to a friend for her birthday and came across a really cool Bio of him.

Heres a quote :

When Tom says:” I’m just living. If anybody gets any good out of it, that’s great. I don’t want to force it on others. I don’t work with a horse that way and I don’t work with people that way.” This quote alone speaks volumes about the manner in which Tom Dorrance approaches life.

Kinda wraps the whole thing up right there! Salute to Tom Dorrance
    09-12-2010, 12:17 PM
Originally Posted by corinowalk    
Heres a quote :

When Tom says:Ē Iím just living. If anybody gets any good out of it, thatís great. I donít want to force it on others. I donít work with a horse that way and I donít work with people that way.Ē This quote alone speaks volumes about the manner in which Tom Dorrance approaches life.

Kinda wraps the whole thing up right there! Salute to Tom Dorrance
thank you, watched he live that very thing.

Quick Reply
Please help keep the Horse Forum enjoyable by reporting rude posts.

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.

User Name:
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:


Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.

Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Bill, I thought of you when I saw this 3neighs Horse Talk 0 07-29-2009 12:45 PM
Old Bill Kirsti Arndt Horse Memorials 4 12-11-2008 02:17 PM
Bill our Gelding wdarmac Horse Health 4 05-24-2008 12:28 PM

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:10 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0