join up...I think... - The Horse Forum

 4Likes
  • 1 Post By tinyliny
  • 1 Post By SRose
  • 1 Post By jaydee
  • 1 Post By loosie
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 9 Old 01-17-2013, 11:14 PM Thread Starter
Weanling
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: minnesota
Posts: 366
• Horses: 1
join up...I think...

haha so I tried join up for the fisrt time tonight, and I'm not sure if I did it right.

So I moved Rowdy out until he was cantering around me and I had him keep going until he put his head down and started listening to me, then I dropped the whip and looked down, bu the didnt stop right away, like 10 secinds later, but then he came in and started following me once he realized I wasnt chasing him anymore...did I do it right?
skyhorse1999 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 9 Old 01-17-2013, 11:41 PM
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 38,755
• Horses: 2
you can always test the strength of the connection by doing various things, like walking right, left, trotting (you trot and see if he'll do it too), backing up, and even send him away from you a bit, quit and see if he'll come back.
JaphyJaphy likes this.
tinyliny is offline  
post #3 of 9 Old 01-18-2013, 09:23 AM Thread Starter
Weanling
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: minnesota
Posts: 366
• Horses: 1
he did follow me wherever I went and at the trot, but he usually does ythat anyway...he backed up with me too, so deos that meann I did it correctly? (thanks for helping by the way:)
skyhorse1999 is offline  
post #4 of 9 Old 01-18-2013, 11:41 PM
Foal
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Panama City, FL
Posts: 19
• Horses: 0
Sounds like you made a good connection with him, good job keep it up and continue to practice it. Change the environment too. Try it out in his paddock the next time you go to get him.
borrowedwings likes this.

Whistle, grin, and ride
-Ray Hunt
SRose is offline  
post #5 of 9 Old 03-01-2013, 08:35 PM
Foal
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 92
• Horses: 0
What were you trying to join-up for? Respect? Attention? Trust?

Join-up actually should be altered depending on the horse. When I meet a horse for the first time, I do join-up differently based on how the horse responds. If the horse wants to come up to me and stick his nose in my face, I do join-up for respect meaning I do lots of transitions and put pressure when he takes his attention off me. If a horse is frightened of me, I'll do join-up for trust, so I ask for lots of stops and use slightly less pressure in order to draw the horse to me.
Laffeetaffee is offline  
post #6 of 9 Old 03-06-2013, 08:13 AM
Foal
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 4
• Horses: 2
I tried join up with my pony, but it doesn't work well!
She was really attentive to me, but she didn't come when I stopped walking. She was just looking at me!
But I work in liberty with her and she is very connected, she trust me (I think) and she respect me.
I don't know what's wrong in my join up. I think it's because I do it in a big manege so I can't be really close to her ...

Skyhorse, it seems to be good! I agree with SRose! ;)
Lucare is offline  
post #7 of 9 Old 03-06-2013, 08:33 AM
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: CT USA an English transplant
Posts: 22,238
• Horses: 3
If the horse is coming to you because its exhausted or bored or expects a treat for reward then it means only that and you havent achieved anything at all
I prefer to use the roundpen technique for ordered disciplined work - like lunging without the lunge rein so the horse is obeying verbal commands or hand signals. I then ask them to whoa and stand and then come to me when I ask them too
loosie likes this.
jaydee is offline  
post #8 of 9 Old 03-06-2013, 09:01 PM
Foal
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 92
• Horses: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucare View Post
I tried join up with my pony, but it doesn't work well!
She was really attentive to me, but she didn't come when I stopped walking. She was just looking at me!
But I work in liberty with her and she is very connected, she trust me (I think) and she respect me.
I don't know what's wrong in my join up. I think it's because I do it in a big manege so I can't be really close to her ...

Skyhorse, it seems to be good! I agree with SRose! ;)
Did you ask her to come to you? Or did you just stand there looking back at her?

The way I teach horses to hook on to me is after I stop them, I walk to them, pet them for standing still, then make sure they will point at me. If I step to the side, the horse should turn and face me. This means they're paying attention and following my lead. Then facing them, I will walk to the left around them so they will turn with me, and then I will take a step away from them. At that point the horse will either step with me, turn away and run, or not move at all.

If the horse steps with me, I immediately turn and pet them. If the horse turns away and moves off, I swing the whip and start join up all over again. If the horse doesn't move at all, I veer back to the horse and walk left past their nose and try again. Not all horses will automatically trot up to your shoulder and follow you everywhere after join-up. You have to encourage them by asking them to follow and if they take a single step, pet them for doing the right thing.
Laffeetaffee is offline  
post #9 of 9 Old 03-09-2013, 02:28 AM
Showing
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Australia
Posts: 12,584
• Horses: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucare View Post
She was really attentive to me, but she didn't come when I stopped walking. She was just looking at me!
What were you doing it for? What did you want her to learn from it?

Quote:
But I work in liberty with her and she is very connected, she trust me (I think) and she respect me.
I don't know what's wrong in my join up. I think it's because I do it in a big manege so I can't be really close to her ...
Perhaps it's not you, but the technique. Also yes, if she's loose in an arena, rather than trapped with you hassling her in a small yard, this makes a difference to the outcome. 'Join Up' being such a natural process needing a natural environment that is...

If you can play with your horse at liberty & have a real connection with her, if you don't need to stand in the middle of a small pen with a stick to teach her to follow you(or whatever you were aiming for) then I submit you were doing 'join up' the truly natural way already!
jaydee likes this.
loosie is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.



User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
The Join up...HELP! mimie98 Horse Training 5 12-31-2011 10:32 PM
How To Do a Join-Up? Zip Natural Horsemanship 5 12-02-2011 08:52 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome