Lets step off from poor LP , and switch to something which looks much more ridiculous IMO.
I must admit I've seen Julie Goodnight in person at the Expo, and she seemed like a very reasonable trainer to me, and I went to her site from time to time. Now this Julie Goodnight Natural Horsemanship / Horse Master TV Show was pretty shocking for me to read.
"There is one sure-fired method of curing aggressive horses and I have used it a few times for this purpose. It is a shock collar. It straps around the horse’s neck and is operated off a remote control, issuing a mild and brief shock when you push the button on the remote. Shocking her for her two or three times for her unwarranted and dangerous behavior would probably be all it would take to permanently resolve her of the aggressiveness.
It is intended for use with extreme behavior that is harmful to horse, humans and/or property and it is highly effective. I’ve used it for stall and trailer kickers, for aggressive horses and for a tantrum throwing horse, who threw a wall-eyed destructive tantrum any time you’d take his buddy away. In most cases, one or two training sessions resolved the bad behavior; for the tantrum thrower, it took a few more.
Many people are initially turned off by this approach—I suppose thinking it is cruel or too harsh. But in my opinion, in certain circumstances, it is the most humane approach."
YES, I think this approach IS cruel AND very VERY far from "natural" horsemanship. All good trainers say you have to learn the horse, how it moves, how it behaves, and then go from there. THAT is pretty much different. Also I don't believe it changes aggressive horse unless you stand in field for 7 days in row doing that. I don't know about HER horses, but my horses challenge each other EVERY SINGLE DAY 20 times on day. And even though my paint get a reprimand from my qh every single time (although I must admit no bite marks, no ripped off blankets, I bet because paint is much faster) she keeps trying every day. Will collar stop that? I highly doubt.
So opinions? Arguments? Thoughts?