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    06-24-2013, 05:52 PM
  #11
Weanling
Wow Cheri......you sure got shot down. LOL

If you want to communicate with your horse you need to earn its respect. And getting that respect means you have to become the leader. And you do that by mimicking the lead horse. Everything Cheri said is on the money......that IS natural horsemanship. You are basically learning horse language. If you want a respectful horse that will walk up to you from the other end of a 10 acre field then it needs to respect you and it will only respect you if you prove to it you are a worthy leader. And being the leader means that you can get your horse under control and calm their mind when they are getting anxious.....they will look to you for an answer and begin to relax and listen.

Now granted I'm not saying don't spend time with your horse doing nothing. Sure do that stuff too....heck I sat out in the field with my horse last night for an hour watching the sunset on the clouds waiting for the moon to emerge. But I also prove to my horse that I am the one he wants as a leader.....and I do that by making him move his feet....making him get out of my space if he's doing something I don't like, etc...you know, stuff that you would find the leader doing in a herd of horses.
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    06-24-2013, 07:02 PM
  #12
Foal
I'm bearing in mind a simple concept: What works for one person and one horse, will not necessarily work for another person or horse.
The fundamentals may be the same, however, if applied effectively.

That said, everything I did with my OTTB worked perfectly well. I never said that I sat around and pet him and kissed him and told him how pretty he is
He received just as much "leadership training." But at the same time, there IS a beauty in just sitting with a horse, quietly observing and watching its movement and personality. Will it teach it anything? No, maybe not. And that's not what I was after. Maybe I'm just a dirty hippie, I don't know...
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    06-24-2013, 07:07 PM
  #13
Super Moderator
No! No! No!

I got shot at -- not shot down. There is a difference.

I want to see where Buck Branaman sat around talking to his horse for hours. He, like myself, has sat around for hours watching horses interact with each other.

And, unlike Buck, [when he told the dumb lady that had tried to pet her stallions into being nice and spoiled them], I have never told anyone they had to kill their horse because he was hopeless. I have taken in probably 10 or more spoiled stallions MUCH worse than the one in the movie and had them riding and behaving nicely in less than two weeks. I have taken in some that had crippled and nearly killed riders and maimed handlers and put them in the hospital for weeks.

And I do not think anyone every said anything about 'spurring' your horse. Where did that come from? What would that help?
     
    06-24-2013, 07:16 PM
  #14
Foal
Chillax. You're accomplishing nothing but negativity by making such comments. If you want to argue, PM me.
The spur comment came from a discussion about leg cues. It's just a "by the way" comment. Part of what I plan to do.

And secondly, the POINT of my post was that I'd like to sit in a corral and talk to the horse and watch the horse. And there's nothing wrong with that. Even if it accomplishes nothing for the horse, it accomplishes something for me. I tell my OTTB all my secrets. A lot of horse owners find this therapeutic. I wanted to see if ANYONE else sits with their horse and just hangs out for the sake of hanging out. I didn't want to look like schizo weirdo at the ranch. But now that I think of it, I don't care if I do.

The INTENTION here is to have fun with it, and enjoy the horse instead. Admire his beauty for awhile and if I feel up for training him, I will.
     
    06-24-2013, 08:15 PM
  #15
Showing
I too enjoy just hanging out with the horses. They welcome my presence and join me or graze close by. There was a time I'd have an agenda but now it's nice to keep an open mind and do whatever comes to mind. Enjoy, that's what it's about.
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    06-24-2013, 08:26 PM
  #16
Banned
I always talk to my horse-- she only thinks im crazy when I want her to run, lol.


I like to sit around with a new horse so they can get to know me- I agree pumping them full of treats and giving them kisses and all will spoil them and not the way to gain respect.. its a good way to calm a horse down that's nervous of people though.


and I definitely didnt shoot at anyone!

No one is bringing negativity --just a different opinion on what 'natural horsemanship' is. Nothing wrong with that.
     
    06-24-2013, 08:47 PM
  #17
Started
I enjoy hanging out watching the horses but mostly I find it interesting to watch their interaction, or just simply to watch them being horses. I enjoying going out into the pasture and approach them for a scratch. I suppose they enjoy a bit of this but I can assume I become somewhat boring because they quickly lose interest and the herd moves off.
If I want their attention I'll come with halter and rope and we'll get to the purpose at hand.
I'd probably so something with this horse even if it's grooming, or taking him for a walk. Good luck with him. Working with a horse and seeing results is rewarding.
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    06-25-2013, 05:34 AM
  #18
Foal
I hang out with my horse all the time, just sit on her, with no halter or anything out in the paddock & watch the stars come up while she eats and I talk to her and stuff! Haha sometimes when she's lying down in the mornings I go and lie with her for a while! While it might not make her respect me any more, i'm sure it helps our bond and trust!
     
    06-25-2013, 06:00 AM
  #19
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Originally Posted by VACowgirl    
Chillax. You're accomplishing nothing but negativity by making such comments. If you want to argue, PM me.
The spur comment came from a discussion about leg cues. It's just a "by the way" comment. Part of what I plan to do.

And secondly, the POINT of my post was that I'd like to sit in a corral and talk to the horse and watch the horse. And there's nothing wrong with that. Even if it accomplishes nothing for the horse, it accomplishes something for me. I tell my OTTB all my secrets. A lot of horse owners find this therapeutic. I wanted to see if ANYONE else sits with their horse and just hangs out for the sake of hanging out. I didn't want to look like schizo weirdo at the ranch. But now that I think of it, I don't care if I do.

The INTENTION here is to have fun with it, and enjoy the horse instead. Admire his beauty for awhile and if I feel up for training him, I will.
Hey I support what you are doing. Just sitting in their paddock allowing the horse to settle with you and have a sniff and check you out is a way to gain its confidence so it will allow you to work with it.

One of mine used to run around in **** circles when ever I went into the paddock. I was told, and also read from trainers who had just sat in the paddock untill the horse approached them. I decided to do the same and it worked.

I sat on a chair and occupied myself fluffing around in the grass ignoring the horse. It did not take long for her to come on up and check me out. Then I would get up and walk away. On the day she followed I then put the halter on and started to work with her.
That horse does not run away or in circles now and will answer to a whistle
So you do what you have set out to do and to hell with negative fault finding comments. My only comment is this. Be sure the horse is not violent and take a walking stick with you. Handy if you have to tap it on the side of the face to turn it or to teach it your space.

One of my horses follows me around when I'm checking and fixing fences, sticking its head in to see what I am up to. I frequently have to remind him of my space but its a great buzz when the horse choses to be with you and follows.
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    06-25-2013, 06:12 AM
  #20
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There he is getting into the hay I had just unloaded. He was walking into the storage area grabing a mouthfull and getting in the way. I, while carring the bale would tell him to back up and push past. After a dozen bales and me yelling back back he got the message and would back up, let me in, have a munch and wait for the next one. The same horse could be eating and as I walk past would with a mouth full follow me just to check out what I was up to. No I'm not humanising him he had hooked on to me and I was the leader. That was achieved by just being with him.
Now and again I have to remind him of my space but it is just pushing him to arms length from me. He is only green broke with little milage on him.
Same horse in the photo below.
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