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post #21 of 45 Old 06-25-2013, 08:51 AM
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I see a huge difference in the sort of people who spoil horses and treat them like poodles and people who have the opportunity to spend a lot of time with them doing constructive training things or just being around them.
A horse that gets all it needs from a 'herd' has little use for humans so the more time you give them the more you're likely to get back in terms of companionship - and that's what most people who keep horses on a one to one basis are looking for
Some of the worst behaved horses I see are the ones who only get touched by human hand or have interaction with humans when they get dragged out of the field to be ridden when it suits the owner.
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post #22 of 45 Old 06-25-2013, 09:07 AM
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I don't see anything wrong with sitting with your horse. I find it relaxing and like watching our herd interact. We just introduced a new horse about a month ago and they are still working out the pecking order, it's entertaining to watch their antics.
I do think I get more from it than they do though.

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post #23 of 45 Old 06-25-2013, 11:19 AM
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There's nothing "wrong" or "silly" about just hanging out with your horse, or watching the herd interact. That's part of the fun of having horses. They're fun to interact with. I'll go out to the barn in the evenings just to spend some time grooming, or scratching his favorite "itchy spots" for a few minutes.

You don't need some Big Name Training Guru's Step-By-Step Overpriced Training Program in order to figure this stuff out.

But it's not like some great epitome of Almighty Natural Horsemanship to sit in a corral. . .no Majikal Bond is going to be formed just because you were there.
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My barn is two big stalls and both horses usually occupy the larger one. Today I needed to go up a ladder in there to hook up the fan. One is nosey, the other a bit leery. With a slight wave of my hand both horses moved a respectful distance and watched. What a head trip! Afterwards I wondered about people who don't have that type of rapport with their horse/s. I returned to make certain the fan was running. The nosey one turned his head toward me and I knew he wanted something. I held my hand out, cupped my fingers and wiggled them. That's me asking if he want's a scratch. He sidled over and I indulged him. I love it.
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post #25 of 45 Old 06-30-2013, 06:30 PM
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I have been reading through and I (altho I am no expert) agree that you aren't going to magically erase any issues you have with your horse just by sitting with him, but in my own opinion just chilling with your equine buddies occasionally is very cool and relaxing for both of you.

I personally do sometimes go grab a book and sit in my ponies pasture to read. She comes over and stands above/beside me. It is very enjoyable. I do not know if it actually benefits her training but it is still nice.

Of course I can only do this because I have her basic respect (still improving of course, but we are doing fine.) and I know I can frown at her to back her away if she is making me uncomfortable, I know I can tap her nose to get it out of my way if her examinations of my library are irritating and I know she knows I will throw the book at her if she disrespects me. if I didn't have these safety measures in place (which came about from lots of consistant riding and groundwork) I would feel very nevous sitting unprotected in her pasture.

So in short, yes I do just hangout with my horse.
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While it is great to spend time with the horse, it's even better to work on ground work and handling. Even if it's just taking the horse to the barn to groom and then hand grazing. The interactions there are just as important as those you go under-saddle.

One of my favuorite things to do when I was younger and had time was go out in the paddock with the barn cat following me and snuggle down under a tree and watch the horses interact.

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post #27 of 45 Old 06-30-2013, 07:15 PM
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This was really neat. For a while a Shetland mare came to live here. She was the greatest at figuring out how to get thro fences. One sunny day I opted to sit on the lawn and read. Then I wound up lying down and closing my eyes and the inevitable happened, I fell asleep. My nap was only about 10 min and I awakened to find the Shetland standing very close. I realized she was standing guard over me as I'd often seen her do with the horses.
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post #28 of 45 Old 06-30-2013, 09:38 PM
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Saddlebag - My mare does the same in her pasture. It actualy used to worry me because I was scared she'd squish me. But once I knew to had control over her from even such a vunerable position I didn't worry.
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Originally Posted by VACowgirl View Post
Then quite simply, you use a different form of Natural Horsemanship. I would say that maybe one trainer's tactics will differ from another's.
I concur that pressure and release is one great aspect and one I intend to use. But I'll also be modeling my actions after Mr. Brannaman.
Buck was trained by ray hunt, who was trained by the dorrance brothers. The same lineage of horsemanship with small personal touches. I tend to gravitate toward there " classic" style as well.
I think where some of the resistance to natural horsemanship comes from some of the so called kool aid drinkers and cult followers of a particular trainer. Those that believe the only way to do it is the new messiahs way of doing it.
Natural horsemanship doesn't always mean you have to go slow. It just means you may not want to go fast. I personally like taking the time it takes. If a horse is good with something in a minute that's how long I take. If it takes all day or a week that's fine to. I feel if I just keep hashing over something the horse is good with it kind of a waste of both our time. How ever I do like just hanging out from time to time. Just my 2 cents and worth every penny you paid.
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post #30 of 45 Old 07-01-2013, 01:43 PM
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I frequently let my two out to graze around the house. That is until one of them decides to investigate the veg garden. I also sit with them or walk around them, do chores around them or what ever. It is a no pressure time and also learning for the horses. All sorts of noise and bush movment, birds in bushes flying out, cats in bushes playing games, some unexpected person or thing walks around, or gets blown around a corner unexpetedly, All learning experiences for the horse. Also one of my favorites opening a window and sayin Hi That one used to spook them.




Then there is the escape, the outside gate was left open. Thats always interesting
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