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        04-28-2010, 12:17 PM
      #21
    mls
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Administrator    
    What's the alternative? Driving those who want to discuss Parelli off the site?


    What does everyone think?
    There are many issues that are repeated and repeated and repeated and could have their own sub forum (slaughter comes to mind). I simply choose to ignore the threads. Other members can follow the same or like approach with PP - or other topics (or posters).
         
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        04-28-2010, 12:20 PM
      #22
    Green Broke
    I think it would be a sad comment if the Parelli people had to have their own sub forum where they can discuss training. It would also have a negative effect of not exposing them to the training ideas of others who may not have Parelli backgrounds thus severely restricting the breadth of suggestions posted.

    Maybe everyone needs to have more of an open mind: Parelli people may need to accept that there may be flaws in some of their techniques and Non Parelli's don't need to jump down anyone's throats if they don't agree with the methods. After all no one is threatning to train YOUR horse in a way you don't agree with right?

    Whilst I am not someone who practices Parelli techniques I would like to think that I would try any training technique if it made good sense to me, Parelli or not.

    Also I think people drastically underestimate the severity of the typed word, when you speak to someone personally most of the communication is visual I.e. Facial expression body language etc. When reading typed responses they can appear much colder so we need to be aware of that (in all forums).
         
        04-28-2010, 12:24 PM
      #23
    Green Broke
    I think the only way the issue would be solved is if people learned to exercise a little self control. Rather than either party discounting the other, the best thing would be if people were willing to listen to each other without the bashing. By all means voice an opinion, but try to do it in an intelligent, thoughtful way and if someone disagrees, do so respectfully.

    I think creating a sub-forum may, in some ways, increase the animosity towards Parelli followers in other parts of the forum. And unfortunately, due to the lack of control exercised by some, I honestly don't think the bashing would stop. There are some people that would follow the sub-forum looking for a fight.
         
        04-28-2010, 12:30 PM
      #24
    Super Moderator
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by luvmyperch    
    Would it help if there were a Parelli forum similar to the Saloon that you must be granted permission to be able to access? If we don't have access, we won't see threads on the New Post list, correct? Outta sight outta mind for the rest of us...
    The reason I personally have an issue with this thought is that I feel it is important for people that are looking for advice, to actually receive advice from all aspects of the horse world.
         
        04-28-2010, 12:36 PM
      #25
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mls    
    There are many issues that are repeated and repeated and repeated and could have their own sub forum (slaughter comes to mind).
    And actually breeding is one of them. There are debates and heat up discussions there all the time. But personally I don't think creating "I want to breed my mare and don't come if you are against it" sub forum would be such a great idea.
         
        04-28-2010, 12:39 PM
      #26
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Administrator    
    What's the alternative? Driving those who want to discuss Parelli off the site?
    I don't think there is any. Sorry, Mike!
         
        04-28-2010, 12:41 PM
      #27
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by savvylover112    
    Thank you for telling me your opinion on the rest as for these two comments I feel I need to comment on for the first one people like David and Karen O'conner are using Parelli Robert Whitaker is using Parelli Walter Zettl is using it how are these people not people that are ahead?

    Exceptional horsemen have exceptional horses regardless of what methods they use. They didn't start winning when they met Parreli and they haven't won any more frequently since.
         
        04-28-2010, 12:42 PM
      #28
    Started
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by HowClever    
    I think the only way the issue would be solved is if people learned to exercise a little self control. Rather than either party discounting the other, the best thing would be if people were willing to listen to each other without the bashing. By all means voice an opinion, but try to do it in an intelligent, thoughtful way and if someone disagrees, do so respectfully.

    I think creating a sub-forum may, in some ways, increase the animosity towards Parelli followers in other parts of the forum. And unfortunately, due to the lack of control exercised by some, I honestly don't think the bashing would stop. There are some people that would follow the sub-forum looking for a fight.
    I agree with the above. As it is, I suspect that some "lurking" occurs in the NH forum as it currently stands.

    I generally refrain from posting in Parelli-specific threads, although I do read most of them. Opinions are wonderful things, and everyone has one. What concerns me the most is when someone posts something and asks specifically that no one critique it, and people start bashing away. I'm all for spirited debate, but I'd also like to see that if an OP explicitly asks for critique-free replies or constructive PNH(or otherwise)-based responses only, that those wishes are honored.

    It's a shame that we can't exercise a little live-and-let-live mentality on some of these topics. PNH is here to stay, and I have no more problem with my neighbor doing Parelli than I do if they do reining, jumping, WP, or any other discipline. Yes, there will be posts with advice based on PNH techniques, just like there are posts based on classical dressage, or reining techniques. So what? The variety of responses is one of the reasons that I'm a member of the forum. I can read what several training backgrounds have to say on a given subject and apply what "speaks" to me and to my horse.
         
        04-28-2010, 12:43 PM
      #29
    Super Moderator
    Thank you for the feedback, everyone. It would seem that the best "solution" is for everyone to try to heed the advice sarahver and HowClever suggested, which is essentially what we've been encouraging from the beginning.
         
        04-28-2010, 12:48 PM
      #30
    Trained
    If someone wants to discuss Parreli with other Kool-aid drinkers then there are several Parreli centered forums on the internet that will tell them how great they are to be able to jump a barrel after only two years and $3000 worth of equipment, instruction and DVD series.

    If I wanted to breed a mare I would NOT post a picture of her here and ask opinions unless she had already foaled six world champion reiners and a Kentucky Derby winner. I would go to a horse breeders forum and ask thier opinions. The great thing about internet forums is that there is one for just about every topic you can imagine and most of them are free.
         

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