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    04-11-2013, 12:23 PM
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I would say its because its becoming increasingly 'correct' to encourage people to wear helmets, especially in the UK where they are increasing their stronghold - surely that was why she ventured into the dressage and English style
     
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    04-11-2013, 12:39 PM
  #12
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Originally Posted by clairegillies    
I've always worn a riding hat, you call them helmets? Is that an American thing? I often ride bareback in and out from the field without one though, so I am inconsistent.
Yes, they are called helmets here. A "hat" would be a decorative object worn on the head that provides no protection in the event of a fall. IE the Top Hats worn in upper levels of Dressage.

I don't believe this thread is so much about whether one *should* wear a helmet so much as wondering why Linda all of a sudden has one on her head when the Parelli's have been quite vocal in the past about only riders with ill-trained horses needing to wear one and obviously the Parelli's would *never* have an ill-trained horse.

My guess is that they are either afraid that they are alienating a good chunk of folks that believe a helmet is essential while riding irregardless of how well trained the horse is OR they are profiting monetarily from the helmet either through sponsorship from the manufacturer or they are going to be selling Parelli-approved helmets.

Or maybe Linda smacked her head a few too many times and forgot she's supposed to be anti-helmet?
     
    04-11-2013, 01:38 PM
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A safety officer told me that in some instances a helmet can be a detriment. The styrofoam padding creates a ridge that runs the circumference. Altho the foam will absorb energy during a sudden stop, (hard to explain) the head stops and the neck keeps going, compounded by the thickness of the foam. This could result in a broken neck when without a helmet it may not occur. Apparently work is going on to develope a closer fitting helmet with good shock absorbancy but we may need to wait for new materials.
     
    04-11-2013, 02:06 PM
  #14
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Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
A safety officer told me that in some instances a helmet can be a detriment. The styrofoam padding creates a ridge that runs the circumference. Altho the foam will absorb energy during a sudden stop, (hard to explain) the head stops and the neck keeps going, compounded by the thickness of the foam. This could result in a broken neck when without a helmet it may not occur. Apparently work is going on to develope a closer fitting helmet with good shock absorbancy but we may need to wait for new materials.
While this may be true, I highly doubt it had any impact whatsoever on why Linda Parelli is now wearing a helmet especially since this type of information should only serve to further her previous claims of helmets being unnecessary.
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    04-11-2013, 04:53 PM
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Helmets are a way of playing the odds. I'm sure there are rare accidents where they increase risk, but all the studies I've seen indicate a reduction in serious injuries of around 50-80%. That is pretty good.

That doesn't mean everyone is an idiot if they don't use helmets. If your style of riding is 10 times safer than another style, then you are safer overall than someone riding the other style WITH a helmet.

There are lots of ways of reducing risk. Helmets, riding style, type of saddle, individual horses, lessons, how far you push your horse - all those affect overall risk.

I'm not an LP fan, but maybe she feels her overall risk has gone up. Or maybe, getting older, she decided she wasn't willing to accept the level of risk that once seemed OK. Or, maybe they ARE going to market a carrot-orange helmet...who knows?
     
    04-11-2013, 10:07 PM
  #16
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Well I know over here in Aus at least, liability insurance for anything to do with horses is horrific & helmets are required to be covered...
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    04-12-2013, 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by bsms    
all the studies I've seen indicate a reduction in serious injuries of around 50-80%.
That's interesting since all the studies I've seen show most injuries happen to the upper extemities, followed by the lower, followed by the torso and then comes the head/neck (as a combined area, but you can separate them to reduce their %).

Most common injury is to soft tissue. The most common serious injury is a broken bone.

The studies you're looking at are likely a reduction to serious "head" injury.

In (let's see...1968...2013) 45 years of riding and working with, well, a LOT of horses (I'd never remember every horse I've ridden), I've hit the ground (gates and other objectss) more times than I care to think about but never (knock on wood) hit my head on anything...yet... although I've had a couple of shoulder injuries, cracked ribs, sprains, etc... Know of far more cases of broken bones and soft tissue injuries beyond remembering. Have a cousin who was launched into a tree when the horse went down while running. Broke her shoulder and give soft tissue injuries to her face (shoving her braces into her lips). She wasn't wearing a helmet (none of us did back then....it was a working farm), but it wouldn't wouldn't have made a difference if she had been. In fact I've only known (personally) to people who suffered serious head/neck injuries. One (who was not wearing a helmet) was hospitalized with a serious concussion, but luckily she survived it. The other was wearing a helmet, but a broken neck killed her (her head was ok though).

I agree it is pretty much playing the odds, but it doesn't provide any protection for the majority of injuries that are sustained. Even so would never discourage anyone from wearing one and would encourage them to. I make my grandchildren wear a helmet when they ride and I encourage my children and girlfriend to, but only because it makes me feel better (which they feel gives them license to lecture me for not wearing one .....especially my girlfriend). However, even when they don't wear a helmet I'm more worry about neck and back than I am their head.

Of course they make padded vests and even neck protection too now days. That would reduce the risk to mainly the extremeties which still make up over half of the injuries reported.

Riding horses is dangerous. As a % more people are injured each year from horses than from motorcycles or cars (you ladies make up the largest number, but what do you expect with more women riding now). With or without helmets we ride at our own risk and take our chances or we give up riding and find something else to do.
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    04-12-2013, 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Delfina    
...I don't believe this thread is so much about whether one *should* wear a helmet so much as wondering why Linda all of a sudden has one on her head when the Parelli's have been quite vocal in the past about only riders with ill-trained horses needing to wear one and obviously the Parelli's would *never* have an ill-trained horse.
Correct: the Parellis have, from their start 20+ years ago, stated "It's not what's ON your head, it's what's IN it!" (Pat), & Linda explained further by saying that getting the horse safe to ride is paramount (true), & that she doesn't believe helmets'll keep her safe. Even after she got a helmetless concussion when her horse Remmer stumbled, she didn't start wearing a helmet, for years afterward, so it's been a hard-core belief till recently.

Pat himself will likely continue to ride helmetless, so LP's wearing one doesn't make it official PNH turn-around, to be sure; nevertheless, it might be edifying to hear why she changed.

Any PNH students who've heard LP give a reason(s)?

Thanks to all contributors!
     
    04-12-2013, 02:14 AM
  #19
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Don't think I've actually hit my head once *since* taking up wearing a helmet Tho when I worked for a trail co I used to wear a helmet with any new horses I didn't know... & glad I did, when I had to get off on the trail one day & the mob kept going - the strange horse I was riding freaked at being alone, reared over me & came down on my head! No damage but he tried the same with a workmate who knew better about everything(no, you don't have to wait for me, of course I'll be fine alone with him, no helmets are uncool...) & minutes later the loose horse came galloping through the group, we went back to find the rider... with half his scalp & his forehead down over his eyes! Boy I was peeved at that guy for ruining a great ride!
     
    04-12-2013, 03:50 AM
  #20
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Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
A safety officer told me that in some instances a helmet can be a detriment. The styrofoam padding creates a ridge that runs the circumference. Altho the foam will absorb energy during a sudden stop, (hard to explain) the head stops and the neck keeps going, compounded by the thickness of the foam. This could result in a broken neck when without a helmet it may not occur. Apparently work is going on to develope a closer fitting helmet with good shock absorbancy but we may need to wait for new materials.

You're still safer wearing one than not.

If her fans start buying the expensive branded ones she will no doubt flog then I see this as a good thing. Less deaths from head injuries however suspect the heads themselves.
     

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