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post #1 of 21 Old 02-26-2011, 03:02 PM Thread Starter
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Did anyone hear about the book and info that is out there about Monty Roberts lying about his family and horse experiences? It seems that his books might me very fictional. I don't see a recent thread on him so feel free to discuss his clinics, books, reputation on here. Anyone met him personally?
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post #2 of 21 Old 02-26-2011, 03:10 PM
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Meh. All I've heard is that he greatly exaggerated his stories about his father beating him and the horses with chains, and all that jazz. Which in the end, does nothing to change the fact that he's a brilliant horse trainer who's had a lot of influence on the equine community with his methods.

However, I HAVE heard rumors about him withholding food and water, as well as being physically tormenting to horses before his demonstrations to make them submit easier. I really don't think I believe that, as it's completely hearsay and sounds like sour grapes to me.

I don't have any doubt that he did with Shy Boy exactly what he said he did. So in the end, I don't see how any of it matters if he felt it necessary to lie about or exaggerate his past. It's like that big "Million Little Pieces" that was a HUGE success, raved about by Oprah and then they discovered that he lied about most of it. Who CARES?! It's STILL a brilliant book that affected a LOT of people!

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Did anyone hear about the book and info that is out there about Monty Roberts lying about his family and horse experiences? It seems that his books might me very fictional. I don't see a recent thread on him so feel free to discuss his clinics, books, reputation on here. Anyone met him personally?

Here is the link to the book.

Horse Whispers & Lies

"The greatest strength is gentleness."
- Iroquois Proverb
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Meh. All I've heard is that he greatly exaggerated his stories about his father beating him and the horses with chains, and all that jazz. Which in the end, does nothing to change the fact that he's a brilliant horse trainer who's had a lot of influence on the equine community with his methods.

However, I HAVE heard rumors about him withholding food and water, as well as being physically tormenting to horses before his demonstrations to make them submit easier. I really don't think I believe that, as it's completely hearsay and sounds like sour grapes to me.

I don't have any doubt that he did with Shy Boy exactly what he said he did. So in the end, I don't see how any of it matters if he felt it necessary to lie about or exaggerate his past. It's like that big "Million Little Pieces" that was a HUGE success, raved about by Oprah and then they discovered that he lied about most of it. Who CARES?! It's STILL a brilliant book that affected a LOT of people!

I totally agree! I don't look at him as a role model for my life. I look at him for horse training ideas and theory. What his father did to him is of no matter to me.

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Agreed with MM and Kevin. He has introduced revolutionary ideas and helped thousands of horse owners across the globe. What celebrity doesn't exaggerate?
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post #6 of 21 Old 02-26-2011, 10:17 PM
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I agree, imo, a horse trainer's personal life, and even to some extent how he got to his current point, have no bearing on whether or not I like him and use his advice. If it works for a horse, and isn't abusive, I don't care whether the person who came up with the idea lied about his past or not. Is sad that he felt the need to lie (if he did), but its of no consequence to me personally if he makes up stories about his life or not.
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post #7 of 21 Old 02-27-2011, 07:08 AM
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everyone lies.

just because some people lie, it does not make them worse (or better) at training horses.
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post #8 of 21 Old 02-27-2011, 07:15 PM
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OK I don't condemn MR's ideas for lying but to say everyone lies so it's OK. Anyone remember the Financial Crisis or Enron. If we as people accept lying as a regular part of our society we will have problems. Life will be harder and our economy will not function as well. Our entire economy is based on trust and so lying is a pretty big deal.
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post #9 of 21 Old 02-27-2011, 07:17 PM
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It's funny actually since that is my biggest issue with you Chris. I don't feel that you're honest and I guess I have a huge aversion to it. But people if we accept lying then don't be surprised when your elderly parents get scammed out of everything they own and worked for. I for one stand up against lying in all its forms.
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The point I was trying to make was that rather Monty lied or not doesn't make his methods any less valuable. It may, however, make me less likely to want to do business with him.

To christopher: Not everyone lies.
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