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    11-18-2010, 08:31 PM
  #11
Green Broke
Really? I don't find him like that at all...
     
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    11-18-2010, 08:37 PM
  #12
Trained
I think it's fair to say most natural horsemanship training will trace back to the Dorrance brothers or Ray Hunt however I would hesitate to lable them as clinicians as they seem like much more than that
     
    11-18-2010, 08:39 PM
  #13
Started
I don't believe that Monty Roberts has become nearly as focused on publicity as Parelli. I have a lot of respect for him.
     
    11-18-2010, 09:15 PM
  #14
Trained
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Originally Posted by Spastic_Dove    
I think it's fair to say most natural horsemanship training will trace back to the Dorrance brothers or Ray Hunt however I would hesitate to lable them as clinicians as they seem like much more than that
I agree but the ironic thing is that they INVENTED clinics.
     
    11-19-2010, 05:10 AM
  #15
Foal
Monty Roberts did a lot of good in Germany - opening peoples minds for considering the way horses might think and feel.

If he makes money with that - fine with me.
I like a few others better, as far as theory is concerned, e.g. Mark Rashid

A problem with Mr Roberts over here in Germany is, that people tend to simplify and apply what he does or says fast and not too skilled. I don't think anyone should do a join-up unsupervised, e.g. That problem will always appear if what you say and show SOUNDS and LOOKS simple. I know of quite a few victims of this approach in the wrong hands
     
    11-19-2010, 05:44 AM
  #16
Green Broke
Regardless of where he learned what he has learned, he presents his knowledge and experience in an easily accessible way. He uses simple language, diagrams and pictures to illustrates steps in his training. His books are affordable and widely available. Other trainers, perhaps including those he learned from, tend not to be so easily accessible and easily understand.

I've got to say, I don't think his franchise is as money centric as Parelli. I've read a book or so of Roberts and he doesn't encourage you to purchase anything from him, there aren't any levels, or special equipment. You don't need to attend a clinic to understand him.

I like him to an extent. I think the Join Up is pretty neat, and some of the ways he discusses training and horses gives you a new a perspective (at least it did back when I was a kid). I've met him briefly and he seems like a nice guy. I've met Parelli too but much preferred Roberts. Beyond basic work though there doesn't seem to be a lot there. Basic work is important, it helps to build the foundations for later training but I do not feel that it is a "complete" system by any means.

Go ahead and try it with your horse, its pretty simple :) Be aware though, at least in my experience, it is difficult to achieve the join up outside of a roundyard. I would even say "near impossible" for the inexperienced trainer and average horse.
     
    11-19-2010, 06:01 AM
  #17
Trained
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Originally Posted by kevinshorses    
I agree but the ironic thing is that they INVENTED clinics.
Good point!
     
    11-19-2010, 07:23 AM
  #18
Weanling
Generally speaking I agree with many of the above posters, in that I find I have more respect for him in the fact that he does not appear geared towards profit, especially when compared to someone like the Parelli's.

I also say him tour with Kelly Marks here in England and his demonstrations were amazing! He certainly made excellent progress in a short time with a horse belonging to the member of the audience who confirmed that he had not worked with the horse before.

That said, I don't really think the join-up process is suitable for EVERY horse. I know someone who is very experienced and also attended the show who has never found it to beneficial with her mare.

Overall though, I'm fairly keen on Roberts and his work. Xx
     
    11-19-2010, 09:11 AM
  #19
Green Broke
I think he's brilliant! I have all of his books, and I use join up on one of my mares, and it's helping alot.
     
    11-19-2010, 09:28 AM
  #20
Green Broke
He does more with problem horses or just starting them then finishing training.
     

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