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        01-01-2010, 09:04 PM
    Thank you :) I hope so as well.
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        01-02-2010, 08:06 PM
    I have finally got the chance to watch the new savvy club dvd, dealing with the treatment prep. That was just what I needed to help me and Radars fear of needles. The whole dvd was very well put together and informative....I like the fact that Pat is using horses that he doesnt know and they act up like our horses would...some of them havent really even been introduced to the 7 games.

    SpiritHorse : Have you gotten the chance to watch it yet? What are your thoughts if you have?
        01-03-2010, 01:12 AM
    I have not watched it yet seeing as I haven't been home (been staying at a friend's house to take care of Arie), but a friend of mine did and told me about it and said it was good. She told me about what Pat did in order to take the horse's temperature, actually pressing on the hole and so on, so I did that with Arie and it really helped him tolorate it better! I'm glad it helped you with needle prep, I'm happy they finally did a DVD on treatment!
        01-05-2010, 05:57 PM
    No one ever even thinks about the foundation until the wind is a blowing and the walls are a shakin!!

    That's when a good foundation pays off in spades. Every horse has his "Holy S__T!"" issues. With a good foundation, trust and respect all can be overcome.

    Try not to blame the vet too much--remember he is expected to get his work done and for sure he has had some real idiots on the end of the rope--both ends for sure. Sounds like he is beginning to trust that you are not one of them.

    Give that girl a cupie doll!!
        01-05-2010, 07:30 PM
    Nah I blame the vet to a degree. I told him beforehand that he needed to go slow but he blew me off. So he got what he had coming not listening to me lol. I'm thankful he didn't get hurt, don't get me wrong, but I do think he learned a lesson.
        01-15-2010, 05:43 PM
    Congradulations on standing your ground firmly on what you believe in. That is sometimes hard to do when the other person is supposed to be the professional
        01-15-2010, 05:53 PM
    Thank you :) That's one thing you do not do with me, is try/think about man-handling my horse. Arie can hold his own just fine, but it's my job to protect him from experiences like that. I would have laid the smack down right then and there if he had kept arguing with me! Lol.
        01-16-2010, 06:49 PM
    Originally Posted by Spirithorse    
    Nah I blame the vet to a degree. I told him beforehand that he needed to go slow but he blew me off. So he got what he had coming not listening to me lol. I'm thankful he didn't get hurt, don't get me wrong, but I do think he learned a lesson.
    One of my young guys needed 17 stitches in his chest. He was in cross ties and when the vet arrived he was going to sedate him but I told him to just freeze the area and sew him up. The horse stood perfectly still while the vet clipped the area and then sewed him up. He never moved but I noticed a slight flinch at the end of the cut and that was because the freezing never took at the very end.
    He then stuck him with 2 needles again just up and stuck them in the neck. There was no messing around, the horse just stood and accepted.

    Is he less then your horse because he accepted????
    When they put him down for a shattered leg they needed a port in his neck so they inserted one and sewed it in so they could inject him easier and faster. Again he just stood rock still on his 3 legs and accepted.
    Lost a great boy that day.. AGain was he less because he didn't make a fuss, was his foundation weak? Or was it alot stronger then yours.

    I do the herd plan on 25 horses. About 20 stand perfectly for the needles and the tube with dewormer squirted down the throat.
    5 fight everything but looking at the owners it is easy to see their weakness. AGain does the 20 have a poorer foundation then your guy or is he more related to the 5 fighters??

    I feel the vet has every right to expect a good horse, a co-operative horse as does the farrier. It is expected and if your horse fights I don't consider it much of a foundation.

    We use to do the teeth without without sedation and they stood , not anymore, now the vets all use sedation but my old guy just stood and accepted.

    I guess I just need to work on my foundation more so he can be a real little puke when it comes time for the vet to handle him.
    You did a good job showing the vet that you don't just go up to your horse and stick a need in him. Good job on building a solid foundation.
        01-16-2010, 07:23 PM
    Well aren't you just a peach RiosDad. You know, you're an ass for posting what you did. You don't know my horse, in fact I know you wouldn't last 2 seconds with him, and I know what is best for my horse thank you very much. So don't think that you are all high and mighty simply because you had horses without extreme needle baggage. So take your critical, nasty, arrogant attitude elsewhere.
        01-16-2010, 07:23 PM
    My horse is terrified of needles...just like me. Good job! :)

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