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    01-16-2010, 07:31 PM
  #21
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Originally Posted by Spirithorse    
Well aren't you just a peach RiosDad. You know, you're an ass for posting what you did. You don't know my horse, in fact I know you wouldn't last 2 seconds with him, and I know what is best for my horse thank you very much. So don't think that you are all high and mighty simply because you had horses without extreme needle baggage. So take your critical, nasty, arrogant attitude elsewhere.
Spirithorse like your name you are not real.. In the real world you won't last a minute. If your horse is as flakey as you let one I won't own him. He would be put down. And this goes alot further then extreme needle baggage. It will extend into every day's activities. The horse needs to learn who is boss, to accept and do as he is told.

Both of you would be much better off it you understood that.
     
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    01-16-2010, 08:01 PM
  #22
Trained
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Originally Posted by Spirithorse    
Well aren't you just a peach RiosDad. You know, you're an ass for posting what you did. You don't know my horse, in fact I know you wouldn't last 2 seconds with him, and I know what is best for my horse thank you very much. So don't think that you are all high and mighty simply because you had horses without extreme needle baggage. So take your critical, nasty, arrogant attitude elsewhere.
I agree with Riosdad. If your horse had the foundation that you think he does he would have stood for the vet the first time. If you are the only person that can handle your horse without being in danger then I would say that your foundation has been put to the test and found lacking.
     
    01-16-2010, 08:22 PM
  #23
Yearling
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Originally Posted by kevinshorses    
I agree with Riosdad. If your horse had the foundation that you think he does he would have stood for the vet the first time. If you are the only person that can handle your horse without being in danger then I would say that your foundation has been put to the test and found lacking.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but here is the difference between you and RD- see how you did not have to resort to name calling and personal digs? I'm sorry but this forum is not a place for people to come and slam one another when they disagree. Everyone has something to learn and advice to give, calling names has no place on this forum.
     
    01-16-2010, 08:34 PM
  #24
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Originally Posted by tealamutt    
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but here is the difference between you and RD- see how you did not have to resort to name calling and personal digs? I'm sorry but this forum is not a place for people to come and slam one another when they disagree. Everyone has something to learn and advice to give, calling names has no place on this forum.
Did you miss this???


Originally Posted by Spirithorse
Well aren't you just a peach RiosDad. You know, you're an ass

I'm sorry but this forum is not a place for people to come and slam one another when they disagree. Everyone has something to learn and advice to give, calling names has no place on this forum

I agree
RioDad
     
    01-16-2010, 08:41 PM
  #25
Yearling
You're right, spirithorse shouldn't have called you a name, but you did attack her so I can understand where this uncharacteristic behavior came from. Not excusing it, it was wrong. However, look through your own history of posts and try to objectively see them through another's eyes and understand how negative and confrontational you almost always are. You'd be hard pressed to find another user on here who starts so many fights.

I think you have valuable advice to give, but no one wants to take it when it is forced on them, or when they are made to feel inferior for not knowing. You don't know the history on her horse, you jumped in and attacked. Maybe she has had this horse a short period of time and he came with issues. I'm just saying, tone it down so we can hear the advice behind the attacks.

Hijack over, let's get back on topic please!!
     
    01-16-2010, 09:10 PM
  #26
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Originally Posted by tealamutt    
You don't know the history on her horse, you jumped in and attacked. Maybe she has had this horse a short period of time and he came with issues. Hijack over, let's get back on topic please!!
I was on the topic. Attack her?? I was posting on what I thought of her foundation. Was that not the topic?? Am I only to agree or have I the right to disagree??
The vet comes and he has to jump through hoops to get near the horse, to work on the horse and we all applaud her and boo the vet???


This is not something to brag about, it is a poor foundation. As for how long she has had the horse? I don't care. I have a history of starting young unhandled pukes, studs and in a week you wouldn't recognize it was the same horse. I have had to tie a young guys head to a post, have my wife play with his lips to nail on 4 shoes the same day he arrived because tomorrow he will be out running trail, like it or not.
Again has she had this horse a week? A month?? Will it be safe for the vet to handle next month???
Kickers, biters, pullers are broke and I use the word broke in the first week. Again is Spiritshorse that new??
I pitty the vet, the farrier, I know she trims herself but I pitty anyone who has to work on the horse.

Call this foundation?? I don't think so. I know so.

You want to talk about foundation?? A young horse caught on an overpass over a big expressway, no sidewalk, no room for more then 2 cars to pass and over 600 feet wide and you get caught right in the middle of the bridge by a snow plow with the blade down, you have a 4 or 5 foot path between the rail which is about ankle height for the rider and a blade scrapping the pavement and you expect, demand the young horse to hold. That is foundation.
     
    01-16-2010, 11:25 PM
  #27
Yearling
Sent you a PM RD
     
    01-16-2010, 11:27 PM
  #28
Started
How about people who don't know me, my horse, or my situation stop bashing and criticizing it? ;) I didn't start this thread so people who are ignorant to all of the above things can give me unwanted opinions. My training philosophies are different than yours, it focuses on the relationship first, not just going in and getting things done at whatever cost...so give it a rest.
     
    01-16-2010, 11:35 PM
  #29
Yearling
Spirithorse, I don't doubt what you have done for Arie, because you have helped my horse so much and you haven't even MET him. When I am a vet, I will definitely listen to clients like you and take the time to approach the horse and situation appropriately. After all, the owner is the expert on their animal and I am just the medical monkey coming in to help out!!
     
    01-16-2010, 11:39 PM
  #30
Started
That attitude will play a huge part in making you an awesome vet :) More vets should have that attitude, more horses would be calm and not defensive!
     

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