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        06-11-2013, 10:41 AM
      #31
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    Originally Posted by PrincessBarbie    
    I wanted my horse to look good and prepare her for the future is the reason why I had her ears trimmed.She is now 2 years old she's officially a filly.She had a birthday last week and she is active.She is in her terrible twos just like a kid when they cry all the time,get into everything and vice versa.The earlier I get her trained the better off we both will be.My friend didn't even know how far away a horse can hear he said "A horse can hear 20 mile" I said "No they can hear things from a mile away".My friend seems to know some about horses but not enough to train one because answered my question incorrectly.
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    I'm not going to give you grief about clipping ears, muzzles, faces, eyes, whatever. If you want the horse show groomed all the time, it's your prerogative. If you're going to keep her clipped up though, please get her a fly mask with ears, to keep the bugs and gnats out of her sensitive ears. That can help keep her quiet about her ears right from the start, no buzzy things in them and no biting things biting them and making them sore.

    **Forgot to say** You might try doing an outside clip on the ears, just for everyday. You take the ear and fold it gently so that just the longest hairs are sticking out past the edges, and run the clippers down the outside and get rid of the long hair that sticks out every which way. It will help get her used to the clippers to have that done every couple of days and keep her neatened up without stripping her ears of all their protection.
         
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        06-11-2013, 10:42 AM
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    If you want to prepare and train, you don't trim their ears out right away... You get them used to the buzz, to the sound, to all the specifics of clipping gradually, so that they become familiar and calm about this procedure.

    Especially because, as she's not being prepared for an actual show yet, she NEEDS that hair in her ears.

    Oh, but well, she's yours to do anything with her as you please. Good luck.
         
        06-11-2013, 11:15 AM
      #33
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    OP-horses do not have "terrible twos". THey have bad behavior resulting from not being handled and trained ON THE GROUND. Has nothing to do with age..
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        06-11-2013, 11:55 AM
      #34
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    Okay,A horse to me is like a child that's why I said she's in her terrible twos.A horse is like a kid they have to learn to crawl before they walk.My horse and I are doing things one step at a time.I love her very much.It seems like yesterday she was a foal and now she is half grown up.It's hard to believe my horse has grown fast.Her mom and dad are good horses and from what I hear they are starving along with 24 more horses.I am glad I got Barbie out of that situation.The owner is wanting to sell Barbie's mom and her name is Indian Princess and I would buy her to rescue her but I know what you guys would think so I am not going to buy her.I would save all of them horses but I can't.Them horses need a good home and need to be fed more I personally don't want the owner to get into trouble.Twenty-six horses to me that is a lot of horses to be feeding they are at least 200lbs underweight and that's bad.Thank you for the advice can't thank you enough.
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        06-11-2013, 11:59 AM
      #35
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    The way this looks to me is this filly needs a lot of constant handling and grooming. There are a number of posts suggesting you work at the clipping slowly so she will accept the proceedure. Same with feet. This little horse is going to be in for a rough time when it comes to saddle training if all efforts to teach her anything is left to the point of need.

    Barbie...raising a horse is work. But they are not a child. Way bigger for one thing. But it is rewarding when they grow into a dependable saddle companion. This all takes constant and consistant handling. I know you want to do the right thing for this horse. It sounds like her former situation was awful. You might look into books and videos of basic care and grooming including foal raising because it sounds like she really needs to start at the very beginning. This will take time and patience. But it will be worth it.
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        06-11-2013, 02:50 PM
      #36
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    OP, it's good to see you are asking questions, but I agree with DustBunny here. I think you've got to start at the beginning, and just go one step at a time. I'm curious to know why you're in such a rush to have her trained so soon? She is just 2. Yes, many horses are started with some light saddle work at 2, but I don't think there would be anything wrong with training her later either, or at least wait until she has ground basics down cold. I know that many people don't train until 3 or 4, but I suppose it all depends on the horse and trainer.
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        06-11-2013, 06:17 PM
      #37
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    Originally Posted by PrincessBarbie    
    Okay,A horse to me is like a child that's why I said she's in her terrible twos.A horse is like a kid they have to learn to crawl before they walk.My horse and I are doing things one step at a time.I love her very much.It seems like yesterday she was a foal and now she is half grown up.It's hard to believe my horse has grown fast.Her mom and dad are good horses and from what I hear they are starving along with 24 more horses.I am glad I got Barbie out of that situation.The owner is wanting to sell Barbie's mom and her name is Indian Princess and I would buy her to rescue her but I know what you guys would think so I am not going to buy her.I would save all of them horses but I can't.Them horses need a good home and need to be fed more I personally don't want the owner to get into trouble.Twenty-six horses to me that is a lot of horses to be feeding they are at least 200lbs underweight and that's bad.Thank you for the advice can't thank you enough.
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    If you know those horses are starving you need to report it. The owner should get in trouble if it will get those horses out of trouble.
    I'd report my own Mother if she was starving animals as someone needs to speak for those that cannot.
         
        06-11-2013, 06:41 PM
      #38
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    if you know those horses are starving you need to report it. The owner should get in trouble if it will get those horses out of trouble.
    I'd report my own mother if she was starving animals as someone needs to speak for those that cannot.
    totally agree!
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        06-12-2013, 02:03 AM
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    Hopefully someone will buy them off of her.I would buy them if I could. I would have to pay between $26,000-$100,000 to get them and I don't have that much money I will admit that.I hate trouble and don't believe in trouble.My friend wasn't very nice today.Barbie is in heat and the little mule Sedrick that is at the barn was being ridden by his son and Barbie was pawing,bucking,running,rearing,and flagging her tail like a stallion she done all of this for about 5 minutes.My friend puts her in the barn and takes the feed away from her and I said "Don't take that feed away from her" and I got it back then he grabbed it and dumps it in the barn and threw the bucket down he said "Don't blank my blank off" .I had to pick the feed off of the ground and put it back in the bucket and give it to her.I didn't get all of it off of the ground but I got enough of it.I cannot say the exact words what he said because cussing is not allowed on the forum one person cussed on the handing over the reins thread but that's not me I don't do that on here.Barbie is my horse and I will do right.
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        06-12-2013, 02:20 AM
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    It sounds like that is not a good friend to have around a young horse...or any horse...but especially one who is in need of a lot of handling and training.
    Sorry...

    I hope someone will report the other horses. It is a very cruel way for them to die if they are not being fed and cared for.
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