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        06-14-2013, 12:10 AM
      #51
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    Yes you are right.My friend has a temper and can be mean.I am going to do all the horse work from now on after I get caught up.I had to take my mom to the doctor and I got in debt.I do need to get a boarding facility for my horse if my friend get mad like that around me and my horse again.Does anyone know any boarding facilities?
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        06-14-2013, 01:48 AM
      #52
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    To be exact, it puts a little pressure/pain on the lip (which is as sensitive as our own) to temporarily make the horse focus on that instead of what's going on. I know a gaited horse that was twitched in the past.... She's naturally a scared horse, but because of it she was EXTREMELY headshy (still is really headshy after having more than a year in natural horsemanship training), and she is terrified of everything. It takes a minimum 50ish mins for her to get over one fear. No horse that was twitched came out with happy memories
         
        06-14-2013, 02:02 AM
      #53
    Yearling
    Sorry to hear about your mom and medical bills and what not. It's always tough when stuff like that happens. Like I said, I wasn't trying to be mean, it was just an observation. Do you have any other friends with horses? If so, a good place to start would be to ask them if they know of anywhere or know someone who knows someone... I think you catch my drift.

    With your horse, I think you should either buy books or videos or both and do as much research as possible. Just take everything one step at a time. Guage your horse's reaction to things as you go and don't move to the next step until you're confident she's completely comfortable with the one before it. In the 20ish years I've been around horses, I've found the best thing you can do is work within your horse's timeline not yours. You push too hard and go too fast and you'll end up back at square one. That's something I still have to remember every now and then as its easy to forget! And don't forget, there will be frustrating days, and you'll just have to push through. IMO that's one of the most rewarding things with horses; working at something til you're blue in the face and they finally get it! Best of luck.
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        06-15-2013, 12:34 PM
      #54
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    You are right you do have to be patient with horses.I do my best with my horse.OP I think my horse has forgotten about the twitching that was done to her.She is doing really well.
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        06-15-2013, 12:54 PM
      #55
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Nokotaheaven    
    To be exact, it puts a little pressure/pain on the lip (which is as sensitive as our own) to temporarily make the horse focus on that instead of what's going on. I know a gaited horse that was twitched in the past.... She's naturally a scared horse, but because of it she was EXTREMELY headshy (still is really headshy after having more than a year in natural horsemanship training), and she is terrified of everything. It takes a minimum 50ish mins for her to get over one fear. No horse that was twitched came out with happy memories
    Done correctly it is not traumatic, done in temper and haste as a punishment rather than patiently and quietly as a safety measure to get something done makes the difference.

    I have seen many people storming off to get the twitch, in the "I'll show you" mind set, they have already traumatized the horse, and then by approaching in temper just make things worse.

    I have seen people gently and calmly applying the twitch to a horse that has not been ramped up to full 'fury' and I have seen it work like it is supposed to.

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    No horse that was twitched came out with happy memories
    is not quite true, some do some don't it is as ever all in the handling and the approach.
         
        06-15-2013, 01:23 PM
      #56
    Yearling
    Yes, twitches have their place. The one mare I mentioned before that we twitched had a serious injury that could not wait for treatment and was very painful. Being on her hind leg, it was a dangerous area to treat. But like you have said, we used it gently and calmly and once she had healed some we didn't even need it. IMO, they should be a last resort though for a very select few procedures, not as a replacement for training.
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        06-15-2013, 02:27 PM
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    Oh totally agree Glynnis, last resort time, I still think that Wills was ear twitched at sometime, and not in a good patient manner, which is why I'm battling with her over bridling still.
         
        06-15-2013, 07:59 PM
      #58
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    Thank you for the advice.
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        06-16-2013, 03:56 PM
      #59
    Foal
    Hi, I am sorry that you aren't in the best situation with your filly. I don't know what your schedule is like and if you see your horse everyday. If you do, I would suggest working on her feet, give her a good brush, then work on her picking up her legs for you, clean her feet out with a hoof pick, and like someone suggested to bang her foot to simulate when the farrier is banging the nails in. As far as your clipping problem, next time you go to clip her most likely she will be problematic as she will remember it not being a good experience. So what I would do is, introduce her to the clipper while they are off, let her see it, smell it, then rub it on her neck a little bit. Take a couple steps back and turn them on to see her reaction. If she bugs out, shut them off and let her see it and smell it again, rub her neck too, try again the next day. Once she is comfortable with them being on and near her, rub it on her neck, moving towards the bridle path. I wouldn't try messing with her ears until she is comfortable having them around her ears. It will take time and she will get used to it. In the mean time with her ears, when your brushing her head, just touch her ears with your hands, rub on them, get her used to having her ears touched. I don't know what you have been doing, I am just trying to be helpful and good luck, I have trained many babies to be handled and this was my approach. We only used the twitch for the vet to inject horses joints and what not. Seriously good luck with her, hope you get into a better environment, for her and yourself!
         
        06-16-2013, 11:33 PM
      #60
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    Thank you and I will do what you suggested Histep.Thank you for the advice.
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