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post #11 of 13 Old 12-21-2013, 01:27 AM
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Basically agree with the above, especially the bit about finding a trainer to work with you. Sounds like you're relatively new to horses & training & while you can learn a lot from theory, it doesn't negate the value (& importance for safety) of hands on help.

That said... Sounds like he's understandably stressed in his new environment & with his new owner. Not to mention whatever his diet is/has contributed to his attitude. I'd look into supplementing magnesium into his diet for starters, for his behaviour as well as other health reasons.

You need to be consistent & effective at whatever you expect/ask of him. If you are going to ask him to move, you need to make sure you've set yourself up to 'win' (& stay safe in the process). If you want to pet your horse, do so, but don't let him dictate to you & be consistent about NEVER reinforcing 'bad manners' such as him getting into your space, 'demanding' pats, rubbing on you, etc.
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post #12 of 13 Old 01-27-2014, 08:44 PM Thread Starter
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Originally Posted by mslady254 View Post
I have to disagree. You dont have a few problems. You only have one problem, and once it's fixed the other issues will fall into place. As already said, he doesnt see you as his leader. He's not necessarily being 'bad', he just simply doesnt see the need to show you the respect that he would to the lead horse in a herd. You need to be the lead 'horse' in your herd of two.

Rule #1-he is not allowed into your space (think a hula hoop sized circle around you) unless you have invited him in. YOU can go into his space (think an oval shape around him) anytime you want to. No exceptions. Simply making this his (and your) new reality will make a huge psychological impact that to him screams that YOU are the leader.
How do you keep him out of your space ? first of all you must be aware, all the time, of his intent, yes, just the intent of leaking into your space. Each time, you either create a commotion-flapping your elbows might work--or, better yet, teach him a back up cue that allows you to stay in place, but gets him to back away. He who moves his feet is not the leader. He who stays put, but causes the other to move their feet is the leader in horseville.
You can learn this and much,much more by 1) studying a Natural Horsemanship's program-ie Pat Parelli, Clinton Anderson, Chris Cox, Dennis Reis,etc....., or 2) A good trainer in your area who either is a self proclaimed Natural Horseman, or leans in that direction.

Rule #2-Following Rule #1 does NOT translate into needing to be 'mean' or hitting the horse !! In fact, be as soft as possible.....but as firm as necessary to get the response of him moving out of your space. If you always start with the firmest request,a very human tendency.... you will soon dull him.

Hope this teeeeny bit of info is helpful to you! This is a very large topic with loads of great educational materials out there.
Thank you so much, this was really helpful! His problem is fixed now :)
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post #13 of 13 Old 01-29-2014, 01:52 PM
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These things might not be as difficult to fix as you think. Some horses do get shaken up when they change owners as you can never explain to a horse what is happening, you just expect them to go live with someone else and they'll be fine but smart horses are affected by this the most.

My horse was just like this for the first few weeks and gradually got better over a period of a few months. At first he just had no respect for my personal space and he just seemed to be ignoring me.
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