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post #1 of 13 Old 09-19-2013, 10:45 AM Thread Starter
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New to Horses, won't take advice (rant)

Is it just me or is it that when someone has had a horse for a year, they think they know everything there is to know about them?

I gave lessons to some kids down the street for about a month, in which time the kids progressively grew more impatient about the basics of riding and wanted to get right into the 'fun stuff'- like trying to barrel race and do pole bending. No sooner did they get bored than the parents stopped having me do riding lessons.

These same people call me out every now and then to load a horse into the trailer when it refuses or 'train' the horse how to do something that it suddenly won't do. I can see that they are spoiling their horses at every turn- let them get away with anything and everything. They bribe their horses with grain to get them to do everything.

What should I do about this? I feel that this is a blatant slap in the face, not only for my own training skills but for the well-being of their horses. They will end up spoiled rotten with vices that will not get fixed because of their owners ignorance. I am thinking about refusing any further aid until they accept some real help either in learning about training or in hiring someone competent who can be there with their kids.
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post #2 of 13 Old 09-19-2013, 11:08 AM
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I would not help them anymore. They could use it against you saying yove been working with the horse and nothing changes blah blah blah. So until they agree to listen to you entirely let them figure it out since you have already tried. I feel bad for the horses but you can't win with people like that.
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post #3 of 13 Old 09-19-2013, 11:10 AM
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Your just going to have to explain that spoiled horses are a danger to their owners(and other people), and unless they are willing to learn how to stop spoiling them, you cant help them any more.

I've been in a similar situation. there is nothing you can do to correct it unless the owners are willing to learn. You need to explain this to them. Either they will realize they need to change, and take advice, or you can walk away.
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post #4 of 13 Old 09-19-2013, 11:29 AM
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do they pay ? if they do and you want the money, you will go help when they call you, and unfortunately, be aware that they will need you again, since they don't put any of your advice into action. you'll make more money that way.
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post #5 of 13 Old 09-19-2013, 11:29 AM
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They should go get machines instead of horses.

I think you are in a no-win situation for you, anyway. Unless they get a clue that they need to actually learn something, I'd back away. The sad thing is someone likely could end up getting hurt, but they need to not be able to put any blame on you, and they can't blame you if you are not involved.

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post #6 of 13 Old 09-19-2013, 01:17 PM Thread Starter
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Thank you all for confirming my thoughts. I am sure that this situation will not end well for anyone, if it keeps going as is. I will definitely have a conversation with them about my involvement.
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post #7 of 13 Old 09-19-2013, 01:27 PM
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It seems like a pretty cut and dry situation, and you have two options. Assuming you are getting paid on the occasions that they need your services, you can continue what you are doing. Help them when they need it, and don't hear from them until the next occasion. At least they'll have someone handy in case of a dangerous situation, but things likely won't improve with the horse.

The other option is to tell them that they will need to take their business elsewhere unless they are willing to put forth the work necessary to improve the situation. Don't expect it to be a pretty sight though- most people don't like hearing such things. Since you seem to have issues with their practices (understandably!) this is probably the best course of action for you to take.
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post #8 of 13 Old 09-24-2013, 03:25 AM
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Never argue with an idiot, they just drag you down to your level and beat you with experience.

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post #9 of 13 Old 09-26-2013, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 6gun Kid View Post
Never argue with an idiot, they just drag you down to your level and beat you with experience.

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post #10 of 13 Old 09-27-2013, 07:12 PM
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I agree with the general consensus, don't work with them. I know from personal experience that it is way too frustrating to work with people when they aren't really interested in what you are doing. You will find better clients elsewhere that won't stress you out!

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