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        12-18-2011, 12:26 AM
      #11
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MySissyGirl    
    A little nip can turn into worse. Be careful
    That is terribly scary.. I'd had a mare bite me in the shoulder... oh I couldn't lift anything for a few days. Terribly painful
         
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        12-18-2011, 12:28 AM
      #12
    Green Broke
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    Originally Posted by kevinshorses    
    Your wife must not have had a good bond with her horse. The OPs horse KNOWS not to use its teeth. He just gets carried away a little and forgets. He never uses his teeth except when he nips her just a little.
    Yes it was when we first got him
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        12-18-2011, 07:23 AM
      #13
    Yearling
    Removed Post.

    Over reaction to another member's advice. This post was much worse then the other.

    ~Moderating team.
         
        12-18-2011, 08:07 AM
      #14
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tinyliny    
    If I reach over to pet my horse's muzzle or give him a treat or say goodby, he may lick me, since I put my hand in his face.
    If I am tacking him up and he reaches around an puts his mouth on me, that is not ok. I did not invite him.
    That's pretty much what I'm looking at. The only time he's done this is when I'm grooming him, and it's not frequent, we're talking maybe 3 times in the last four or five months.

    I know to reprimand him instantly if he gets in my space, and I know I've got to be alert for it, because he is a little pushy. Usually if he starts to get into my space, I flash my arms and hands, or the lead rope, up by his face and oblige him to move away from me. Once in a very great while he doesn't get the point, and I need to bump him with the rope to get the desired effect.

    But when he's done this, by the time I can react, he's already moving away from me as if I'd flashed him off. I don't get the opportunity to warn him off, because he's already going there.

    That's what I'm wondering if there is something else I ought to be doing. Should I give him a smack even though he's already moving off? Make him move off *more*? Something else?
         
        12-18-2011, 08:31 AM
      #15
    Started
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    Originally Posted by ThursdayNext    
    But when he's done this, by the time I can react, he's already moving away from me as if I'd flashed him off. I don't get the opportunity to warn him off, because he's already going there.

    That's what I'm wondering if there is something else I ought to be doing. Should I give him a smack even though he's already moving off? Make him move off *more*? Something else?
    Absolutely give him a smack if he's already moving off. If he's jumped out of reach give him a good flick with the end of the lead rope. Even if he's already acting like he's been corrected, if he doesn't get the feedback from you every time he's going to get confused and start wondering exactly what is allowed and what is not. Consistency is key.

    I'm all for allowing my horse to lick me and be lovey if I invite him to do so. No invitation, no mouthing. I've never had any of mine get carried away, and only one time has anyone been bitten, and that was sheer accident/human error (my non-horsey dad tried to feed my old gelding hay by hand, and wasn't careful enough to keep his hand flat and fingers out of the way - John accidentally got a finger, and reacted just like you describe in the OP; jumped back like he'd been the one bitten before Dad could even figure out why his finger hurt).

    Personally, if the horse is testing that lips and tongue vs. teeth boundary, it's time to really lay down the law and disallow any mouthiness, at least until he's learned to be respectful about it again. Even if he only nips every once in a while, it can easily escalate to something a lot less cute.
         
        12-18-2011, 11:39 AM
      #16
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ThursdayNext    
    Wow. Are you always this much of a jerk? Who said anything about having special bonds and rubbish like that? If you can't be helpful, or at least thoughtful, get off my thread and go pester someone else.
    I thought that would be nicer and get my point across better than saying that allowing a horse to lick you while you're doing anything with it is stupid and you deserve to be bitten when it undoubtedly happens.
         
        12-18-2011, 11:39 AM
      #17
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MySissyGirl    
    A little nip can turn into worse. Be careful.Horse Bites Girls Hair - YouTube

    THAT horse would be in a hole in the pasture.
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        12-18-2011, 11:46 AM
      #18
    Trained
    I have a lovely young Saddlebred colt who is the MOUTHIEST creature in the whole entire world. I've never had a colt who uses his mouth as much as Harley. He has NEVER been allowed to use his mouth on me and he still challenges that and occasionally gets his teeth on my shirt or steals my hat. I go after him like a wild bear each and every time because he's going to be over 17 HH when he's full grown and at 5'3", I'm not going to be as annoying as a fly when he's up there. I do NOT want a 17 HH horse grabbing me by the back of the neck like that draft did in the video, that's a quick way to get severely injured or dead. The little kid was lucky all he did was fling her and didn't do the knee drop on her, that would have been the end of her.

    Kevin might be being a bit sarcastic with you but I think it's well meant. Get after your horse each and every time he tries to give you a nip. No more cuddles and licking, he's the type that you give an inch and he'll take an ell.
         
        12-18-2011, 05:43 PM
      #19
    Showing
    Our horses have never been allowed to invade our space but my son was mindlessly walking a little too close to the gate when the pony reached over and grabbed a mouthful of hair and ripped it from my son's scalp. According to him it was quite painful.
         
        12-19-2011, 12:26 AM
      #20
    Trained
    I don't think Kevin was being rude at all. Actually, I laughed. To the OP - Take my original advice, then learn to laugh at yourself. You're not the first person in the world to have done the exact same thing and get themselves bitten.
         

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