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post #41 of 44 Old 03-05-2014, 12:01 PM
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Donīt know how cool it is talking about someone I donīt know or a member on this site.
I think itīs ok to talk about the Big Picture.
I see two schools, Montey Roberts Join Up and Pat Parrellis My Space Your Space.
I see a combination of the two, I want a partnership with my horse "join up";
I also want my space respected at times!
Montey is the ground work, you build up a relation first,
Parrelli is the advance work which you accomplish with Patience and Time, and this is what is good with Patīs way, through his courses and the
high price you are forced to spend time with your horse.
I am not too keen on all the rope twitching and whipping, reminds me of the old Diana Warwick song Heart Breaker, How can I love you when your not around....or in the horses case at arms length. Weather animal or human that is not the way you build a relationship.
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post #42 of 44 Old 03-05-2014, 02:33 PM
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One of my horses works beyond arm's length because that is the respectful distance he decided on. I can lunge him at liberty in the middle of a 5 acre pasture. His reward isn't my loving and petting him but turning my back and walking away for a minute. This completely removes any pressure he may have felt - a reward in his language.
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Saddlebag, that is exactly the way Parelli teaches to reward a horse. Any body who let's their horse run over them or mug them for treats is not doing Parelli regardless of what they might say. If you actually study and follow the program you know that it is a system with a lot of answers. As far as backing the horse up by wiggling the rope which seems to bother some people that is not where you start. You start by teaching the horse to give to steady pressure on nose or chest. If you are doing it right it should take as much force as pushing a rubber raft in a pool. After the horse knows how to give to steady pressure you teach him to give to rhythmic pressure which is what shaking the rope is eventually the horse will back from just shaking your finger. The whole idea of natural horsemanship is to ALWAYS start with the least amount of pressure and amp it until you get a response. Parelli calls it phases. Phase 1 where you always stare is just wiggling the popper on the end of the rope. Phase two is wiggling the rope but not moving the snap. Phase three is wiggling the snap. Phase four is winging the snap hard enough to get a response-whatever it takes. As soon as the horse moves go back to phase one.
I find it funny when people say that Parelli doesn't work with a problem. Most people get into Parelli because they have a problem horse. If you don't have any problems with your horse why would you bother.
Different horses require different solutions to their problems. Often opposite solutions. That is why Parelli came out with their Horsinality program. It helps do decide how to approach different problems with different horses.
People who complain that Parelli doesn't offer much beyond the basics have a point but in the past couple years they have been concentrating more on performance. Pat and his son Caton are at a big cutting doings right now. Lauren Barwick you has won gold and silver in Paralympic dressage is a student of Pat.
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post #44 of 44 Old 03-30-2014, 04:17 AM
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The most important thing w/ all these trainers is that you don't drink the kool aide.

The thing about these trainers is that you take what you can and you leave the rest and know that they will never replace a physical in your presence trainer...
Definitely agree. We use Parelli groundgames, but my trainer knows best what works for my horse and I. She can also watch me make mistakes and help me fix them bit by bit. That's why, in general, I don't think TV trainers are ever as helpful as the real deal.
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