I really like this forum. It is wealthy with helpful, friendly people who are very knowledgeable. I like every section, except for the NH one.. I thought it would be a place for people to talk about their experiences and techniques, and ask for help with specifically natural aspects of training… Instead it seems to be bashfest for bad trainers, marketing, and brand names. This makes me sad. I see this anger and intolerance as a fundamental issue in the horse community where I live as well, so I really can't help but to try and promote some peace and well-rounded opinions.
My aim here is not to torture everyone with rehashed crud, but there are so few positive things I read here I felt that I should share this story.
Solon- Yes, that is true I agree completely. Experienced horse people like you and MANY at this website have successfully used methods on many worse horses. And that's great, really it is. My trainer was trained by a woman who trained traditionally, monty Roberts style, parelli style, and with Gawani Pony Boy. She created her own out of these teachings and started a natural barn with no gimmicks and baloney. This "common sense" approach is TOTALLY great and I would promote that over ANY brand name. However.. It didn't help Sarah.. Because she was 14 and she didn’t have the experience with making her own style or changing it to fit this horse.
The structure and resources of (BRAND NAME) can help people in conjunction with a wide selection of trainers to choose from.
I don't think that Parelli is aimed at experienced veterans like Solon and anyone else who posted. I think it is meant to solve problems one might have with a specific horse or even a person who better took to the style. It is aimed at people like Sarah, and it can do GOOD things. That is my point here. As to the DVD thing, I completely agree with nrhareiner. Whenever people ask my what trainer series they should pick for natural I say "DO NOT do that until you have found a trainer to your liking!" Also, don't try to skydive or play waterpolo without adequate instruction, its common sense that many more should exhibit.
My post is about the name, but it isn't. There is so much emotion tied up in this single word.. It is the philosophy to me, that is valuable. I am a novice and reading and seeing material by (BRAND NAMES) expands my knowledge of the actions and reactions of the horse. I think some of you equestrian experts take for granted the ease with which you understand your horses and can pinpoint their motivation… obviously necessary for good training. That stuff is hard, guys! I don't care about Parelli, but I detest that the mere word Parelli has made NH look bad. I don't think it has to be that way.
As to "Crazy Arabian stallion" Z was aggressive and they later found out he had a history of abuse. I don't know the details.
Perhaps the fact that this trainer was before all the hype makes it better. But many Parelli trainers use multiple tools. Sarah is actually also headed up to CO for Parelli school, and what she says she likes about the program is that "You can have an opinion" I've never even seen her use or have PP merchandise. Wait.. She lost her Parelli pad :p so she did have something from them.
But it's true, you don't need their merchandise. I practice garden variety NH.
Our expensive materials consist of:
A halter with squares on the side
+dog chain (equals NH "bridleless")
A lead rope (leading and "teeth")
A long rope for lungeing
Aaaand... geez.. um.. I guess treats and grooming!
Wow we are cheap. ^^
Last edited by Clair; 09-09-2010 at 07:58 PM.
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