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post #21 of 44 Old 09-19-2009, 04:25 PM
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But what if your horse is perfectly quiet and behaved with your own methods and has no interest in dropping you on your head already, is it safe to say that a well behaved horse greatly reduces the chance of you having an accident? Oy! There were so many things wrong with that statement! Fine his methods may be solid, his skill level may allow him the option to wear a helmet, but to say that they don't prevent accidents becoming much more serious and tramatizing, or to say that I fear an accident everytime I ride because I wear a helmet is insulting. I rarely fear a situation is going to lead to me falling, and the fact that I have learned how to fall fairly efficiently over the years due to the many falls that I feel is neccesary to actually become an accomplished rider, makes me really happy to have always ridden in a helmet.

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Well, I believe that the day I stop thinking that a horse could get bit by a snake or have a bee fly into their ear and cause them to explode is the day that it will happen and I won't be prepared for it. Complacency is the most dangerous human frame of mind and the fact that they are stating their program can train ALL issues out of a horse before ever getting into the saddle is incredibly arrogant, IMHO. But to each their own, I'm done.

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Can you not at least admit, that there would have been a better way to handle that question?

Obviously, training is your biggest friend. However to say that a helmet isn't necessary on a trained horse is giving off the wrong impression and is inaccurate. Just because there is no fear of your horse bolting/spooking/etc does not mean it is not a possibility.
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When did they say a helmet isn't necessary? They never did. They aren't going around saying "If your horse is trained Parelli you have no need for a helmet." As I have said already, obviously Parelli is VERY well aware that horses do spook.
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Got to play devil advocate here for a moment.

Riding horses is one of the MOST dangerous things that a person might choose to do on this earth.

Every person should wear (to lessen the risk)

Face mask
Full coverage vest with shoulder guards
Ankle supports
Full chaps
Long sleeve shirt with elbow protectors
Knee pads
Back support

Every person should ride in a safety saddle with break away stirrups and should pass a riding skill test before they mount up also.

Anyone that does not do this is taking too much risk and should be counseled by a professional.
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That's not my point, Marecare. I don't always ride with a helmet. I don't think it should be mandatory at all.
If you are going to not wear a helmet, that's fine...but to say you're not wearing a helmet because you have a perfectly trained horse is delusional.
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Was that from HC, Iride? You have to take everything you read there with a grain of salt. It's ridiculous.

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I'm not arguing with you, I'm just explaining why I'm right.

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Parelli is saying that if you solve the actual issues first, then you won't have that fear of the horse doing something.
No, Parelli is saying that their horses are so well trained that there is no need for a helmet or other gear. This is what I get from the letter. Evidenced by the fact that Linda Parelli will be shown jumping her horse without a helmet - people learn by example ... if I train my horse like she does, then I don't need a helmet. - that is irresponsible.

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post #30 of 44 Old 09-19-2009, 05:34 PM
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In response to people wearing helmets because they're afraid, I find that total nonsense. We have numerous helmet posts around the forum and the 99% top reason I have EVER heard is simply for SAFETY. People don't wear helmets because they expect something to happen. Most people know they'd probably be safe without one. They've just witnessed far to many freak accidents to take chances. To make the statement that people typically don helmets out of fear is just ridiculous. These same people virtually always don headgear when riding bicycles or quads as well. It's not a fear thing, it's a well being thing. Unless fear of having your head split open is considered an irrational phobia?

Maybe it's not how they "meant" it, but the entire tone of the letter is disgusting. It's fine if you don't want to wear helmets, heck I don't, but don't attempt to justify it by claiming to have fool proof training methods or even pretending to know why the majority of riders DO wear helmets. They actually make it sound like people only wear helmets as an ANSWER to the problem, which is absurd. The majority of people on this forum have horses just as well trained, docile and respectful as a Parelli horse, I'm pretty sure they don't wear helmets just because they believe they're getting dumped every ride. They've just learned through VARIOUS TRAINING METHODS how things can go wrong. Ergo, another bad reason for remaining close minded. You can't work or be around solely Parelli horses your entire life, unless you never want to touch someone elses animal again.

I find it downright dangerous that as a professional coach and trainer, they actually advocate not wearing helmets. They're drawing completely amateur newbies into their circles, they have a professional courtesy to at least promote the use of helmets, or at least warn people, not lead people with half a brain on to thinking not protecting that half a brain is worthwhile.

That's my opinion anyway. I may not wear a helmet myself, but I still promote their use to anyone who comes to ride. Ultimately it's their decision, but I will always run through the warnings and the advice to wear a helmet, ESPECIALLY with amateur riders or non-horse people.

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