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    02-19-2011, 05:26 PM
  #21
Weanling
The "savvy" horseman need not work in categories, and the "savvy" horseman knows well that no 4 approaches can work the same for ANY horse in the world, as horses are just as individual as humans, and the number of horses in the world isn't a direct multiple of 4.

Do level 1/2 of any trainers DIY program (parelli himself, at the end of the level 4 DVD, says the words "all you ever needed to know was in level 1", the rest is just applying things you learned in level 1 to new things) and you'll have all the knowledge needed to create your very own program, entirely adjustable for any horse.
     
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    02-19-2011, 06:20 PM
  #22
Trained
Oh yes lets get all the money we can before we tell them. Would not want anyone to know this is not needed until they spend all this money.
     
    02-19-2011, 08:33 PM
  #23
Foal
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Originally Posted by nrhareiner    
Oh yes lets get all the money we can before we tell them. Would not want anyone to know this is not needed until they spend all this money.
Well here's most thought on this. If you work with the horse enough to know how they will react and they don't fit into one of the Parelli categories, you can still figure out how much you can and can't push them. If you take your horse to a new location and he/she turns into a different horse then you being a knowlegable horse person would know what to do or not do. How hard to push or when to back off. If you don't...then you should really learn horse language and learn to recognize what and why your horse is doing or not doing what you are asking.
     
    02-19-2011, 08:52 PM
  #24
Started
PP's claim was simplistic or who knows what he was thinking to say that: if you & your horse stayed in Level 1, you're just safe, & not even having fun yet! So, the next levels of skills & character development in the human are needed, unless you want to drive your horse nuts.
     
    02-19-2011, 10:21 PM
  #25
Trained
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Originally Posted by heartscontent    
Well here's most thought on this. If you work with the horse enough to know how they will react and they don't fit into one of the Parelli categories, you can still figure out how much you can and can't push them. If you take your horse to a new location and he/she turns into a different horse then you being a knowlegable horse person would know what to do or not do. How hard to push or when to back off. If you don't...then you should really learn horse language and learn to recognize what and why your horse is doing or not doing what you are asking.
Yes and just think I do that and did not spend over $2K on DVDs to get there.
     
    02-19-2011, 10:23 PM
  #26
Trained
You do know the definition of crazy correct?

Doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome.
     
    02-19-2011, 10:57 PM
  #27
Banned
I really like Zane Davis's Personality theroy best.

He believes that there are 12 (not 100% sure if that's the correct number) different horse personalities. And he even believes these twelve personalities can mix. (Like a horse can be "The Slacker" with a touch of "The Nail-Biter")

The Parelli Horsenality chart doesn't leave room for the over-lappers, and that is where I think the Horsenality Theory falls short.
     
    02-19-2011, 11:35 PM
  #28
Started
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Originally Posted by A knack for horses    
The Parelli Horsenality chart doesn't leave room for the over-lappers, and that is where I think the Horsenality Theory falls short.
Yes, it does: Linda's horse Allure is in one quadrant (super playful & exuberant) when he's calm, them goes totally freaky about learning something new. Pat's stud Casper is in "all four of them at once" as Pat says. Parelli teaches that there are the simpler horses that present one mode, then that there are the more complex horses.

To add to the discussion: Klaus Hemfling, a very masterful horseman based in Denmark, has 26 horsenality types!
     
    02-20-2011, 12:05 AM
  #29
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Northern    
PP's claim was simplistic or who knows what he was thinking to say that: if you & your horse stayed in Level 1, you're just safe, & not even having fun yet! So, the next levels of skills & character development in the human are needed, unless you want to drive your horse nuts.
i'm sorry but that's simply wrong. In level 1 you learn the concept (negative reinforcment; which is "hands that close slowly and open quickly", "pressure motivates, release teaches" and numerous other catch phrases he uses to describe the one thing) and how to safely apply it. And in level 2/3/4 you learn different ways to apply that same concept. But you don't need to spend hundreds of $ on level 2/3/4 to learn how to do that, you just need an imagination.
     
    02-20-2011, 12:09 AM
  #30
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Northern    
Yes, it does: Linda's horse Allure is in one quadrant (super playful & exuberant) when he's calm, them goes totally freaky about learning something new. Pat's stud Casper is in "all four of them at once" as Pat says. Parelli teaches that there are the simpler horses that present one mode, then that there are the more complex horses.
"huh, how interesting!" because in one of the recent savvy club DVDs she does some stuff with allure to teach strategies for one horsenality. And if pat himself says a horse can be all horsenalities at once, which would mean the horse at the time had an inconclusive (inconclusive in that you can't be both applying right brain methods while applying left brain methods, and you can't apply introvert methods as you can extrovert ones) horsenality by parelli's standards, what's the point of horsenality? Other than money, of course.
     

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