Originally Posted by Saddlebag
Parelli said he had previously worked with the horse and things were going well. When the horse became reactionary, who knows, large crowd, new facility, Pat admitted he succumbed to the time pressure he was under. Pat has a great fondness for horses and I'm sure had time been on his side things would have turned out much differently. How many of us have screwed up in other areas because of time pressures - we all have. I for one vowed it would never happen again.
Oh, he and Linda have worked with many horses that things did not go well with. Some worse than others. The only thing that's constant is (according to them) it's always the horse's fault
(or you didn't understand what you saw
....sorry Pat, but some of us where dealing with horses before you were and we're well aware of what we see
That case I was referring to as being really bad was some years back and since what he was doing was clearly not going to work he should have changed to a different means (but that would not have been following what he sells and that would have been bad for business). Easier to fail and blame it on the horse or say that detractors just didn't understand what was happening. I know of cases that didn't go well since then. I watched a case on one of their own training DVD's that a friend (big fan of Parelli) insisted that I watch. Of course they had pretty much overlooked the problem Linda had with the horse (horse was absent from the rest of the training demonstrations....but mentioned as a problem). Poor horse just didn't like their method and reacted accordingly (just like my older mare years ago when a Parelli trainer tried that same thing with her and it didn't work then either). It's not so uncommon, but if you can't think beyond what someone is selling you as the only or best way (i.e. Their way) then you're not going to do as well as you could or should. It becomes the hard way for the horse and by default a less than easy way for you.
I'm always amazed at how so many PP fans just don't see these things as problems with what's being taught. Worse yet, in cases where it can't be ignored (i.e. Like the case where a horse ended up injured) they make excuses, defend them and agree that it's the horse's fault
(not that there aren't "problem" horses, but they are usually either "created" or very rare otherwise).
Of course I also know "former" PP followers too. They figured it out
and tend to be very unkind about PP (more so that those who never followed
I have come to realize that the majority (not all) of his followers and trainers that I've met were not people who had been familiar with horses or training horses and basically bought into all the hype from PP promoting a product. They didn't tend to have been in a situation where there were a lot of very experienced horse people around to help them so like a drowning person they grabbed at whatever straws they came across. Then like a newly hatched duck or goose they followed there new leader blindly (after paying a hefty fee for the privilege
It was very different back in 71 when after having ridden for 3 years I was given my first horse to train. There weren't all these people selling ways of training a horse. It wasn't a "product". It was a collective knowledge of horses (plural, because they are not all the same) skills, techniques and the use of a LOT of common sense that knowledgeable and skilled people passed on. That's the way it has always been. Of course you had to be willing to be the butt of a lot of jokes (such as not having the sense God gave the horse
) from these people when they saw you NOT being smart and doing something stupid, but you did learn and there was a lot a pride for both you and them when the day came that they all
respected you for the job you did in making a good working horse (and of course afterwards they would each brag about what great guidance they had given
.....not so much that you had done it
). Money can't buy that and no one can sell it. That amount of knowledge you can't get from someone trying to sell you a system that works with some horses, but not others. You train every horse in a way that works for that horse so you better have a larger bag of knowledge than what you pay PP for.