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    08-07-2012, 03:22 PM
  #21
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No one is going to take you as an apprentice unless you are a VERY GOOD rider. An apprentice has to ride very well because they are going to ride customers' horses and they are wanting to learn how to 'finish' a horse. Real trainers (successful trainers at the big shows) have dozens of people who want to get where they are. So, they ask you to send in videos of you riding. Most want to see you on more than one horse before they ask you for a IRL interview. Many require recommendations from other 'real' trainers. They, for sure, are not looking for horse loving beginners.

They are not looking for students that want to learn to ride. You have to get that far on your own. You are either going to have to have a LOT of talent and horses to ride (to be 'self-taught') or you are going to need a lot of lessons.

You can learn to ride by spending a lot of money or you can probably find a riding stable that will trade labor for lessons. We do that all of the time. If someone will show up when they say they will, we will take them on. We have them clean up and saddle horses for the trail rides, groom and saddle the young horses, in general, be mine and my husband's legs. We do not stall horses any more, so there are no stalls to clean. Many stables require stall cleaning for labor to trade for lessons.

In exchange, they get to ride (usually the trail string horses to start with), learn how to ground-drive and properly longe horses, desensitize green horses, and on and on and on. The most valuable thing they learn is how to handle and act around horses, how to read and know what a horse is thinking AND HOW TO AVOID WRECKS!

Only you know how well you ride and whether you need lessons to ride better before you expect to get on good horses that are headed for the show-ring or a profession. An apprentice needs to be able to ride good enough to make a horse ride better when they ride them than they did before they rode them. If a person is still getting on horses and the horses are not learning to do something better than they did the last time they rode that horse, they are not ready to be 'training' one. They are still at the stage where they are 'taking something off' of each horse they ride instead of adding something good to each horse.
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    08-07-2012, 03:34 PM
  #22
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Originally Posted by Cherie    
No one is going to take you as an apprentice unless you are a VERY GOOD rider. An apprentice has to ride very well because they are going to ride customers' horses and they are wanting to learn how to 'finish' a horse. Real trainers (successful trainers at the big shows) have dozens of people who want to get where they are. So, they ask you to send in videos of you riding. Most want to see you on more than one horse before they ask you for a IRL interview. Many require recommendations from other 'real' trainers. They, for sure, are not looking for horse loving beginners.

They are not looking for students that want to learn to ride. You have to get that far on your own. You are either going to have to have a LOT of talent and horses to ride (to be 'self-taught') or you are going to need a lot of lessons.

You can learn to ride by spending a lot of money or you can probably find a riding stable that will trade labor for lessons. We do that all of the time. If someone will show up when they say they will, we will take them on. We have them clean up and saddle horses for the trail rides, groom and saddle the young horses, in general, be mine and my husband's legs. We do not stall horses any more, so there are no stalls to clean. Many stables require stall cleaning for labor to trade for lessons.

In exchange, they get to ride (usually the trail string horses to start with), learn how to ground-drive and properly longe horses, desensitize green horses, and on and on and on. The most valuable thing they learn is how to handle and act around horses, how to read and know what a horse is thinking AND HOW TO AVOID WRECKS!

Only you know how well you ride and whether you need lessons to ride better before you expect to get on good horses that are headed for the show-ring or a profession. An apprentice needs to be able to ride good enough to make a horse ride better when they ride them than they did before they rode them. If a person is still getting on horses and the horses are not learning to do something better than they did the last time they rode that horse, they are not ready to be 'training' one. They are still at the stage where they are 'taking something off' of each horse they ride instead of adding something good to each horse.
I was a very good rider, I used to train horses for a broker. I won grand champion on a horse I'd never been on, but it's been over a year, and I'm not in shape any more.

I bought my horse as a yearling, and did all her training my self, till the last year that I had her, and I had a trainer to help me teach her reining.

If I was in shape I could trainer Jumpers all day long, but I don't want to be in the english world any more. I'm not even sure if I even want to be in the horse world any more. I don't think there is enough money in horses? That's why I posted this thread, I'm just looking at my options.
     
    08-07-2012, 03:52 PM
  #23
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What 'kind' of trainers have you asked for apprentice opportunities?

There are 'general' trainers that start colts, ride and school trail horses, Mounted Shooting horses, etc, and there are 'event specialists' that show in one event or kind of event like reining trainers, Western Pleasure trainers, Cutting trainers, halter trainers, show and sale fitters, Hunter Under Saddle trainers, and the list is endless. They are going to want an apprentice to have a lot of experience in that venue.

There are regional trainers that take in a lot of local or non-show types of horses. If they show at all, it will be in 'open' shows and small local shows. These are the only things you will get from any of the Clinicians. None of the big-name clinicians are able to train or take horses to a high level in any event. The good event trainers only do clinics in that particular event. They are not people like CA or PP or JL.

If you are interested in a particular event, then you need to aim toward that event in your riding. Is there a particular direction you want to go? Have you put together a series of videos showing how well you ride? If you have, start sending them out and ask what kind of apprentice positions might be available for someone that rides at your level. If you have shown, show any videos you may have of you showing. Even if you want to expand to a different venue, show videos show raw talent and ability.
     
    08-07-2012, 04:01 PM
  #24
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Originally Posted by Cherie    
What 'kind' of trainers have you asked for apprentice opportunities?

There are 'general' trainers that start colts, ride and school trail horses, Mounted Shooting horses, etc, and there are 'event specialists' that show in one event or kind of event like reining trainers, Western Pleasure trainers, Cutting trainers, halter trainers, show and sale fitters, Hunter Under Saddle trainers, and the list is endless. They are going to want an apprentice to have a lot of experience in that venue.

There are regional trainers that take in a lot of local or non-show types of horses. If they show at all, it will be in 'open' shows and small local shows. These are the only things you will get from any of the Clinicians. None of the big-name clinicians are able to train or take horses to a high level in any event. The good event trainers only do clinics in that particular event. They are not people like CA or PP or JL.

If you are interested in a particular event, then you need to aim toward that event in your riding. Is there a particular direction you want to go? Have you put together a series of videos showing how well you ride? If you have, start sending them out and ask what kind of apprentice positions might be available for someone that rides at your level. If you have shown, show any videos you may have of you showing. Even if you want to expand to a different venue, show videos show raw talent and ability.

I've tried to talk to just, colt starters, and reiners, because that's where my intrests lie. I don't have videos, and very few photos, because no one in my family can hold a camera. I used to have a video, but it was an actual tape, and I don't even think it works any more if we even still have it, and I doubt they would want a video that's over 7 years old.
     
    08-09-2012, 02:15 AM
  #25
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Clinton Anderson has a training program called the "Academy". It's expensive too but you get to use his name when you're out on your own making money. I think it's a reasonable deal given his popularity and training methods. You have to meet certain qualifications to get in.
     

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