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        01-05-2012, 11:03 PM
      #131
    Foal
    When I got my first horse, the people I knew with horses were very seriously into Parelli, so they showed me quite a bit. I think it is a well used concept that has been named and sold. I will not pay to "level up" or anything, but the foundation behind Parelli I think holds ground,
         
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        01-06-2012, 01:29 AM
      #132
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    Originally Posted by HorseyyGal    
    Sorry Golden Horse but this seems like you really don't respect your horse at all! Would you like it if someone grabbed you out of your bed & put you to work without having some fun first?
    I respect my horse (s) just fine, I respect them as the individuals that they are.

    I respect that Fancy needs me to be brave for her at all times, she needs her person to lead, but never get angry, but Ace needs a partner, she will do everything I ask of her, but will put her own Arab twist on this, and rather than insist on 100% my way, we agree something in the middle, which is why she wont be going back in the dressage ring

    G Man does not like to think when I am there so every move needs to be given to him, Big Bert needs endless reinforcement that she is doing things right. Ben now, I'm still doing ground work while I get a full handle in what makes him tick and what he needs from me.

    This is the way I respect my horses, by understanding them, but when it comes time to ride, **** right they will ride.

    Do I want to get up every day and feed humans dogs and horses, no, I would rather stay in bed, but it's my job.

    Do I want to fight my way through a blizzard to make sure the horses are OK, no I'd rather stay indoors in the warm, but it's my responsibility to care for them.

    There are times when I would like to buy something nice for me, but their needs for the farrier, vet, new saddles for their comfort etc come first.

    SO NEVER EVER EVER tell me I have no respect for them, I never stop trying to do the best for them, and all I ask is they hang about look pretty and do an hour or two of work every few days, they have it easy.

    OH, AND, I respect that some horses do not share my visions, and I have made the difficult decision to sell Fancy because it is very clear to me that she loves to be driven rather than ridden, she is a different pony under harness, so I'm trying to find the right driving home for her, rather than keep trying to make a her a riding pony.
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        01-06-2012, 01:43 PM
      #133
    Foal
    Silverspear, I don't do ground work until my horse decides she wants to be ridden, I do some groundwork with her, to see if she is responding well to aids, to see if she is in pain at all and if she is safe to ride. Then I get on and if she pulls faces, I check her saddle and girth to see if she is in a discomfort (this is what I meant by asking) and if not, I play with her until she realises that she would rather me on her back than doing all this extra groundwork. Now I don't need to do this, but do about ten minutes to see if she its all okay.
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        01-06-2012, 03:10 PM
      #134
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    Originally Posted by savvygirl559    
    Silverspear, I don't do ground work until my horse decides she wants to be ridden, I do some groundwork with her, to see if she is responding well to aids, to see if she is in pain at all and if she is safe to ride. Then I get on and if she pulls faces, I check her saddle and girth to see if she is in a discomfort (this is what I meant by asking) and if not, I play with her until she realises that she would rather me on her back than doing all this extra groundwork. Now I don't need to do this, but do about ten minutes to see if she its all okay.
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    Maybe it's just me, but I see those two statements as a complete contradiction to each other. Basically, what I am hearing is that if your mare pulls a pissy face about being ridden for any reason other than pain, you "play" with her (I understand "play" to mean the 7 games or some variation of, which aren't actually games, but groundwork) until she decides that a bad attitude about being ridden means that she gets worked until she changes her mind. What will you do when she someday decides that she's just going to stay in the pissy mood and not change her mind about being ridden?
         
        01-06-2012, 03:12 PM
      #135
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    Originally Posted by smrobs    
    What will you do when she someday decides that she's just going to stay in the pissy mood and not change her mind about being ridden?
    Respect her right to say no and take her out to the cinema instead?
         
        01-06-2012, 04:19 PM
      #136
    Foal
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by savvygirl559    
    Silverspear, I don't do ground work until my horse decides she wants to be ridden, I do some groundwork with her, to see if she is responding well to aids, to see if she is in pain at all and if she is safe to ride. Then I get on and if she pulls faces, I check her saddle and girth to see if she is in a discomfort (this is what I meant by asking) and if not, I play with her until she realises that she would rather me on her back than doing all this extra groundwork. Now I don't need to do this, but do about ten minutes to see if she its all okay.
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    So your groundwork, "playing", is actually a kind of punishment? I understand groundwork before. When you decide that you must do groundwork while riding? What means pull faces?
         
        01-06-2012, 04:23 PM
      #137
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    Originally Posted by Golden Horse    
    Respect her right to say no and take her out to the cinema instead?


    No means no!!!!
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        01-06-2012, 04:34 PM
      #138
    Foal
    I meant that if she was not responding well? I would rather her on the ground not responding well than with me in the saddle! When she starts responding snappily, I will get on! And it is not a punishment! If you were at work and your boss said that you have to do some more work, and you said no, then he said, if not, I want you to clean all the toilets in the building in 10 minutes. When you start you think, id rather do work! Personally, I don't class that as punishment, you don't have to do it!
         
        01-06-2012, 04:43 PM
      #139
    Foal
    But I wouldn't call it playing because playing should be fun right? And you want her to do something that is not pleasure for her.
    Could you give me an example of a sotuation when you get off her and do this extra ground work? What kind of problems do you prefer to solve from ground than from a saddle?
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        01-06-2012, 04:47 PM
      #140
    Foal
    I don't get off her! I would stand in one stirrup to see if she was okay and I she wasnt I would just take my foot out, I have never gotten on and then gotten off again! But that has never happened for no good reason. I think only once and she had a fly caught under her girth!
         

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