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        09-16-2009, 11:57 PM
      #31
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    Originally Posted by RadHenry09    
    OR perhaps taking a few ideas from others and mixing it together is the best for you and your horse...
    That's all I'm saying.
    If you don't know how to train a horse, don't rely on DVDs to teach you... please!! I suggest taking lessons/clinics/whatever with a lot of different trainers throughout your riding career - even the bad ones will teach you something :)
    If you stick on one program and expect it to work for every horse, you're going to end up disappointed. No one singular training program works for each horse, and it's idiotic to claim that.
    At least if you have a lot of experience with different backgrounds to pull from, you have a wide base and will likely be able to address whatever problem comes your way.
    Parelli is good for some horse/rider combinations, for others it is the last thing they should be doing. Moreover, Parelli should NOT be your only training "tool" in your "training toolbox" as that is very narrowminded.
         
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        09-17-2009, 12:07 AM
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    [quote=JustDressageIt;405089]That's all I'm saying.
    If you don't know how to train a horse, don't rely on DVDs to teach you... please!! I suggest taking lessons/clinics/whatever with a lot of different trainers throughout your riding career - even the bad ones will teach you something :)

    Wasnt sure if that was just a general statement to the thread or to me but I just wanted to add that I don't just rely on DVDs to help teach me. : )
         
        09-17-2009, 12:22 AM
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    A general statement.
         
        09-17-2009, 12:47 AM
      #34
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    To me it seems it would confuse the horse because he wouldn't know who is coming to the barn today.....
    Looks like you need to expierament for yourself and see what happens .

    I've found that trying to expose your horse to as many different people (with non-abusive hands mind you) as possible makes a more solid horse in the future. Exposing them to different people once and a while makes them listen to you and make them more willing to what you are asking them to do.

    Look at lesson horses for example. Yes, some may seem to be more 'dead headed' but would you want a more 'broke horse' that you can clean up by being faster with signals? Or a horse that is completely insain and won't listen to you? For safety, I think, I would go with the lesson horse.
         
        09-17-2009, 07:31 AM
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    Originally Posted by Spastic_Dove    
    I think you need to find your own way to communicate with your horse.
    To quote Mr. Parelli... "And the crowd goes wild!!!" Very well put.

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    Originally Posted by RedHawk    
    I read on the FuglyHorseoftheDay blog, about how one woman wrote to Pat Parelli about her appy. The horse was quite dominant and was biting her, to the point where he was leaving big bruises on her. Parelli's answer - give him a carrot, make friends with him and then he will stop biting you.
    Dear Lord... where's that eye rolling smiley???

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    Originally Posted by RadHenry09    
    Although I do see the direction of this thread and everyone is entitled to his/her opinion I can see how using The parelli program combined with other NH training can be confusing to the horse. The Parelli games/levels build upon each other. For example the seven games are learned in an order 1-7 , you do them in order and get really good at doing them then you mix them up. Level 1 tasks are before Level 2 task etc...The exercises build upon each other until you have success in all areas-Savvys. I believe that it is the same with other programs ...( just as an example) Clinton Anderson has gaining respect on the ground 1 & 2 .You should follow the exercises in order on 1 before jumping to 2. If you pick and chose just randomly and don't have a clear outline of what it is you want to accomplish you are being confusing to the horse.
    An excellent point. Any rider/trainer/handler does need to build a foundation before moving up, but that is true for any training methodology, whether Parelli, Anderson, or Classical Dressage. There are steps to follow, and, by and large, most roads lead to Rome. Any issues here are the result, not of mixing nethods, but of asking a horse for too much, too soon. There's being mixed up within a method, and there's mixing and matching entire components of different methods. Mixing and matching can work well as long as your horse is properly prepared, mentally and physically, for what you are asking of him. I do recognize, however, the benefits of having a well structured, step-by-step system. People (in general) in my experience like processes to be laid out in a systematic way. (Actually, for shunning all predatory activity, something that systematic seems a little out of character for the Parelli's... aren't predators supposed to have highly systematic goals and methods or something?) There's a reason why instructions come in the box for gadgets with moving parts. The Parelli's and others have provided a set of "instructions" for dealing with horses in general for anyone who wishes to take advantage of it. The thing is... a horse is not a stereo, an internal combustion engine, or Barbie's Dream House. With these things, if you do one thing not quite according to the instructions, your (insert item here) will not function at all. A horse is a little different, IMHO. There are a dozen ways to get the end result, but skipping any steps is what sets anyone and any horse up for trouble.
         
        09-17-2009, 12:28 PM
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    Originally Posted by Spirithorse    
    To me it seems it would confuse the horse because he wouldn't know who is coming to the barn today.....the person who acts more natural, or the person who acts completely different just because their goal for that day has changed.

    At least in my view, Parelli stays the same no matter if you are practicing a safety technique for trail riding or you have preformance goals and are practicing the fundamentals for performance. The attitude doesn't change from simple maneuvers to more difficult ones, the principles don't change either.

    If you have a clear view of what you want to ask of your horse and break it down to simple steps your horse won't become confused. As far as your horse not kowing who is coming to the barn, your horse doesn't know Pat Parrelli from Clinton Anderson from Bozo the Clown. If your horse gets confused it's your fault not anyone elses. Nobody is forcing you to change anything about your attitude.
         
        09-17-2009, 12:38 PM
      #37
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    Originally Posted by Spirithorse    
    To me it seems it would confuse the horse because he wouldn't know who is coming to the barn today.....the person who acts more natural, or the person who acts completely different just because their goal for that day has changed.
    The person who acts natural? As opposed to acting how?

    One example of my not natural' training methods - I teach my horses to back from the ground by stepping into their 'space' - yet they know ME to know when I am stepping up to pet or hug or expecting them to move.

    No wiggling or anything necessary . . .
         
        09-17-2009, 09:31 PM
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    Well apparently I don't know how to do anything right with horses because I do Parelli....according to roro (or whatever her username is, can't remember) *rolls eyes* And I guess the people I've given lessons to in the past didn't learn anything from me either.....even though they have advanced A LOT. Sure, ok.......people who do Parelli don't know what they're doing.....lol.

    Parelli is a brilliant program for those who really want to strive for being the best they can be for their horse. Craig Johnson, Karen Rohlf, Louis Lucio, David and Karen O'Connor, along with others also agree. Pat is an amazing horseman. If you deny that, you are blind. Enough said.
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        09-17-2009, 09:43 PM
      #39
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    Originally Posted by Spirithorse    
    Well apparently I don't know how to do anything right with horses because I do Parelli....according to roro (or whatever her username is, can't remember) *rolls eyes* And I guess the people I've given lessons to in the past didn't learn anything from me either.....even though they have advanced A LOT. Sure, ok.......people who do Parelli don't know what they're doing.....lol.

    Parelli is a brilliant program for those who really want to strive for being the best they can be for their horse. Craig Johnson, Karen Rohlf, Louis Lucio, David and Karen O'Connor, along with others also agree. Pat is an amazing horseman. If you deny that, you are blind. Enough said.
    All I'm saying is that it is NOT the only way, and it is NOT for every horse and every person. It can't be.
    I am also saying that if you don't explore more training options than just this one technique (or just any ONE theory) then you are severely limiting yourself as a horseperson.
         
        09-17-2009, 10:46 PM
      #40
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    That is your opinion. And my post was not directed at you, so I hope you didn't take offence to anything.
         

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