Parellis take on grazing while riding - Page 3 - The Horse Forum
 84Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #21 of 51 Old 08-23-2013, 11:32 PM
Showing
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Higgins, TX. YeeHaw!!
Posts: 21,973
• Horses: 24
My horses don't get to eat with a bit in their mouth....period. It doesn't matter if I'm leading them, riding them, or they are standing ground tied, they aren't allowed to eat.

I need them focused on the job at hand, not scanning the ground for the next available bite.

I have a horse that has been a bear to keep from eating under saddle from day 1. I don't know if it's just a strange personality quirk that is singular to him or if it might be because he's a mustang...I just don't know. The one thing that I do know is that if I allow him even one bite while I'm riding without correcting him, he turns into a monster about eating with every step...to the point that he completely stops paying attention to everything around him, including where his own feet are at. He nearly went down on me once because we were going down a steep hill and he dropped his head to get a bite and tripped.

Now, because it's the only thing I've found that even remotely works on him, whenever he even thinks about taking a bite while I'm riding him, he gets a spur to the ribs. He's gotten much better now that he only tries a few times a year, but I know that if I allowed it even once, I'd have the monster back again.

When my horses are saddled, this is the only time they are allowed to "graze"; with the bridle removed.



Always remember that feeling of looking at a big, open country over the ears of a good horse, seeing a new trail unwind ahead of you, and that ever-spectacular view from the top of the ridge!!! Follow my training blog: http://robertsontraining.blogspot.com/
smrobs is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #22 of 51 Old 08-23-2013, 11:38 PM
Weanling
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: CA
Posts: 269
• Horses: 1
I trail ride in a hackamore and am training my mare that pressure on her neck means she can graze. So far so good, no bad habits. She is generally respectful about moving along when I tell her.
TrailDustMelody is offline  
post #23 of 51 Old 08-24-2013, 12:35 AM
Weanling
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 640
• Horses: 0
I will occasionally stop and let Rio have a bite to eat. I view it as a bit of a rest and a reward for him doing a good job. I use pretty short reins with him so I have to lower them a lot so he can get his head at the ground. He knows if we're stopped and I lower the reins he's allowed to graze. When I lift the reins he easily moves along with no hassle. We use a hackamore and I like that he's able to eat easily with it.
tinaev is offline  
post #24 of 51 Old 08-24-2013, 02:22 AM
Weanling
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 530
• Horses: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wallaby View Post
Everybody starts out with the same "you get AWAY and stay away from that hay when I ask! I don't care what you're doing, or how hungry you are, I'm telling you that's my hay" rule though!
Hey, Wallaby, do you mind me asking how you get that effect? My horse is very pushy around feeding time (it's a struggle each time to make him hold still while I take his halter off if there's grain in the stall). So far I've just been blocking him and giving him a "Hey!" when he tries to duck around me, but he only lets up for a split second and I usually call it a victory when he looks away for a second. I would looove it, though, if he would stand like a sane horse until I give him the ok rather than weaving around me like a demented boxer. Should I just do it "bigger"? Is there a danger of really scaring him if I react really strongly if he gets pushy (I mean as in yelling, making noise, chasing him away, of course, not hitting him)? I have a pretty passive/non-confrontational type of personality, so being "lead mare" isn't natural for me. I have to have rules and tips to follow

"...and may your life be filled with good horses." Buck Brannaman

SammysMom is offline  
post #25 of 51 Old 08-24-2013, 08:37 AM
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 5,977
• Horses: 0
"Excuse me Mr. Parelli, but my horses are 'trained' horses and they do not 'lunge forward' to grab a bite of grass. Perhaps if you taught your followers to actually 'train' their horses instead of just playing games with them, they would not be unseated by their horses lunging for a bite of grass!"

The way you get a horse to stop being pushy when you lead him into a stall is to jerk the stuffing out of him if he moves while you are removing his halter. Jerk him hard and back his butt into a corner and make him stand there for a minute or two. Any time he moves, jerk again. If he moves again when you try to remove it, jerk him again. He will finally just stand there at attention and let you remove it completely. Demand respect and you will get it. Most horses do not volunteer more respect than you demand.
franknbeans, Wallaby and smrobs like this.

visit us at www.wolferanch.com
Cherie is offline  
post #26 of 51 Old 08-24-2013, 08:59 AM
Green Broke
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Valley of the Sun
Posts: 2,902
• Horses: 3
Sometimes I'll let them eat when we are out. Mine are also kept on a dry lot, and I figure the fresh forage is good for them. However, they only eat on my terms and move off when I tell them. It's the same way at feeding time also. If I tell them to move away from the hay then, they do.
flytobecat is offline  
post #27 of 51 Old 08-24-2013, 10:32 AM
Started
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Chula Vista, CA
Posts: 1,996
• Horses: 3
I have the rule of "When there is a bridle on, you are working". So, no eating or goofing around. This would apply to riding or driving. I think this sends a clear message to the horse on how he should behave with equipment on. Not only that, but grass can get tangled around the bit as well.

Now, I'm sure there are special circumstances.....long hacks where they need to have a nibble or two and rest. You could always enforce the no eating with a bridle there too by having a halter on as well and taking off the bridle to rest.

But, over all, no eating with equipment for me.
Oldhorselady is offline  
post #28 of 51 Old 08-24-2013, 11:04 AM
Yearling
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: SW MO
Posts: 890
• Horses: 0
Quote:
Originally Posted by COWCHICK77 View Post
I want my horses thinking about the job at hand not where the next mouthful of grass is coming from.
I've been dealing with this issue and giving a pretty firm no when Sam tries to steal a bite on trails. As we are approaching a 2% slope down a soft footed trail I want his attention on me and his feet. If he is chewing he is not engaged worse yet is if he tries to eat on the descent. He tried to steal a bite and lost his balance. That's when I decided it was against the rules.

I went from asking. If he attempts to graze he gets a single rein pop.
AQHSam is offline  
post #29 of 51 Old 08-24-2013, 12:41 PM
Weanling
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 530
• Horses: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherie View Post

The way you get a horse to stop being pushy when you lead him into a stall is to jerk the stuffing out of him if he moves while you are removing his halter. Jerk him hard and back his butt into a corner and make him stand there for a minute or two. Any time he moves, jerk again. If he moves again when you try to remove it, jerk him again. He will finally just stand there at attention and let you remove it completely. Demand respect and you will get it. Most horses do not volunteer more respect than you demand.
Thanks, I will try this. I am usually very reluctant to do the jerking, but I guess FG makes the most sense here.
Posted via Mobile Device
SammysMom is offline  
post #30 of 51 Old 08-24-2013, 01:02 PM
Trained
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Colorado
Posts: 6,463
• Horses: 1
My horse is not allowed to graze while I am riding. To me, it's just a matter of respect.
Zexious is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.



User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Grazing Muzzle heathermstalnaker Horse Health 1 06-24-2013 12:10 PM
So what's your grazing like? DeliciousD Horse Talk 44 06-19-2013 08:08 AM
Classical Zettl teaching Parellis Northern Natural Horsemanship 59 01-19-2011 12:58 AM
The Parellis' Opinion on Helmets -- ???? JustDressageIt Horse Talk 23 09-21-2009 02:33 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome