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    07-13-2010, 08:29 PM
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They said the horse was brought in because the grooms had trouble bridling him and it would take about 10 minutes to get the job done. However in the end of the 10 mins they did get the bridle on (Whitaker refused to show how in front of the crowd). Parelli spent over 2 hours, a gum line twitch, a leg rope, and still no bridle on the horse. It would have been nice to see what went on behind the scenes to where they could suddenly bridle Catwalk the next day! Some more Parelli natural training? Or perhaps a couple quick shots to make a calmer horse?
     
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    07-13-2010, 08:29 PM
  #12
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Originally Posted by Poco1220    
^ convenient editing huh?
Very. And not the video I wanted to share. I will try and find the other video again and post it, right now it's lost to the e-gods.
     
    07-13-2010, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Charis    
Between this and Linda's video earlier this year I'm interested to see what direction the program goes.
I'm sure it'll be successful. PA followers will post million reasons WHY he should do it this way (as it happened with LP video). I bet one of the reasons will be "because it's a stallion, you know, they are all dangerous and wanna kill you".

My question though is WHO's horse was that? Pat's? And if not why the owner was OK about what's going on? Why noone would stand up and ask him why he does it? People are afraid or what?
     
    07-13-2010, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Poco1220    
^ convenient editing huh?
As unpleasant as it looked, I'd like to see a less-spliced version and better see how it escalated. Sometimes horse training ain't rainbows and bunnie-tails, but I'd like to see whether the twitching, etc. was a knee jerk or a last resort.
     
    07-13-2010, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by kitten_Val    
I'm sure it'll be successful. PA followers will post million reasons WHY he should do it this way (as it happened with LP video). I bet one of the reasons will be "because it's a stallion, you know, they are all dangerous and wanna kill you".

My question though is WHO's horse was that? Pat's? And if not why the owner was OK about what's going on? Why noone would stand up and ask him why he does it? People are afraid or what?
Robert Whitaker is the owner. The horse is the famous Catwalk.
     
    07-13-2010, 08:37 PM
  #16
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Interesting article on the hullabaloo.

EVENTING NATION: VIDEO: Pat Parelli and Catwalk controversy at Express Eventing
     
    07-13-2010, 08:37 PM
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As unpleasant as it looked, I'd like to see a less-spliced version and better see how it escalated. Sometimes horse training ain't rainbows and bunnie-tails, but I'd like to see whether the twitching, etc. was a knee jerk or a last resort.
Scout, my horse was terrified after the intranasal injection I was stupid enough to let the vet to give without sedation. Up to the point vet couldn't come close at all. I ended up calling another vet, who also couldn't handle her at first. But he told me he uses twitching and have no problem with it, but he'd never NEVER use it on her. Because she's terrified and it'll make things much worse. He ended up moving her butt around for half-hour and voila he was able to give the shots. And he's not a BNT. But still can handle a bad situation.
     
    07-13-2010, 08:38 PM
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Robert Whitaker is the owner. The horse is the famous Catwalk.
So I assume he was around enjoying the show... Sigh....
     
    07-13-2010, 08:39 PM
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I am not opposed to using a bit of force occasionally on a horse if the behavior warrants it (and a scared horse never warrants punishment anyway, correction yes, punishment no), so long as it is done only as much as needed and never out of anger. My biggest problem with the whole thing is how big of hypocrites the Parellis are. They preach about using understanding and love to communicate with your horse and never ever use force and most of the Kook-aid (not a typo) drinkers run around spouting off that you can train any horse to do anything you want without ever having to bump the halter or pop him with the lead rope and then you see crap like this. If you're going to be harsh occasionally, fine, just don't go around thumping your own bible and then publicly violate every one of your ten commandments.
     
    07-13-2010, 08:41 PM
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^Well said, smrobs. WFT.
     

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