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post #21 of 24 Old 07-30-2013, 01:50 PM
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The point of my asking PP students this question is that Linda, in Level 1, teaches to ride "like Charlie Chaplin", I.e., toes hanging out as much as they naturally would, no effort to change anything, THEN in Colleen's collaborative PNH dvd, she tells Linda to turn all in. So, does that instruction replace the L1 instruction, or what?

I guess that no PNH students want to explain, so thanks to other contributors, anyhoo.

Have you asked Linda herself? I would assume that if she is endorsing the Kelley lady, then she has changed her approach to match Ms. Kelley's.

I think having the toe face more forward is the long accepted and taught method in dressage, and in hunt seat. It puts more surface area of the whole leg, thigh and calf, onto the saddle. When jumping, however, I think folks tend to have the toe out more so that they can get the lower leg more wrapped around the horse, for security.
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Parelli does say to have your toes out - but relaxed out. I have tried it the way people always tell me to - toes in. It hurts my feet and legs really bad and my horse keeps thinking that I am asking him forward, so I was constantly fighting him. So I keep my legs just relaxed and just let them relax out how it is comfortable.

And I know for western they like you to have toes out - when showing at least.
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Did a bit of research, & I should think that we can all accept what Nuno Oliviera's directive was, since he was an acknowledged master: "Your legs should be like two noodles resting on the horse." (paraphrase) I.e., no pressure spots on the horse, & no forcing into any position, but just a relaxed drape.
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Did a bit of research, & I should think that we can all accept what Nuno Oliviera's directive was, since he was an acknowledged master: "Your legs should be like two noodles resting on the horse." (paraphrase) I.e., no pressure spots on the horse, & no forcing into any position, but just a relaxed drape.
Sounds like common sense to me!

I don't try to force my toes forward so I'm sure they point out (will have to take a look at that next time I ride). My reasoning is that it is comfortable for me and I don't want to make my knees or ankles sore trying to keep them into an unnatural position. I trail ride, so I don't care how people think I look.
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