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    11-01-2010, 02:04 PM
  #1
Foal
Exclamation Pony too desensitized to lunge! :(

Hi I was hoping to get some advice. I have a pony and apparently i've trained him so well to lead that when try to lunge him he thinks im leading him and just keeps following me around. I can't evens startle him enough to get him to go away from me! I don't know what to do, can someone please tell me what I can do? My friend whois very experienced has helped me numerous times and we can get him to listen to our cues. He just follows us around. Help!
     
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    11-01-2010, 04:58 PM
  #2
Weanling
What tack set up are you trying to sung him with (length of lead, lunge whip?)

First I would get him to back away from you. Once he has a good back up cue get him backed up about 10 ft or so away from you, then point the direction you wan him to go, if he doesn't go, raise your lunge whip toward his shoulder/neck and apply pressure until he moves off. Start by gently shaking the whip 1-2-3-4, if he doesn't go tap his neck 1-2-3-4 and if he still doesn't go give him a good solid whack on the neck- as hard as you need to, but keeping rythm until he moves off. You may have to really give him a good whack with the end of the lunge whip to get him to move, but as long as you remember to ask with as little pressure as possible and release the instant he moves off you'll be able to get him moving with your initial ask eventually. So long as you give fair warning, it's fair, don't just go smacking him out of the blue though!

Good luck
     
    11-04-2010, 03:51 PM
  #3
Foal
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Originally Posted by Ktibb    
What tack set up are you trying to sung him with (length of lead, lunge whip?)

First I would get him to back away from you. Once he has a good back up cue get him backed up about 10 ft or so away from you, then point the direction you wan him to go, if he doesn't go, raise your lunge whip toward his shoulder/neck and apply pressure until he moves off. Start by gently shaking the whip 1-2-3-4, if he doesn't go tap his neck 1-2-3-4 and if he still doesn't go give him a good solid whack on the neck- as hard as you need to, but keeping rythm until he moves off. You may have to really give him a good whack with the end of the lunge whip to get him to move, but as long as you remember to ask with as little pressure as possible and release the instant he moves off you'll be able to get him moving with your initial ask eventually. So long as you give fair warning, it's fair, don't just go smacking him out of the blue though!

Good luck
I agree. Just start off with a small circle around you. Slowly over time, as he understands what you want, then make that circle bigger. Drive the front end away to get him to go away and around you, as explained above.
     
    11-06-2010, 05:23 PM
  #4
Foal
As above! LOL I too would ask him for the back up - Yoyo then lead with the front end (point) and drive with the back end...(smack) All explained much better above with the step by step first answer ;o)
     
    11-06-2010, 06:54 PM
  #5
Weanling
I had the same problem with my 2yo. I used a homemade carrot stick to push him off when he came at me, and he quickly figured out he was supposed to moved around me instead.
     
    11-08-2010, 01:01 PM
  #6
Weanling
Any progress with him yet?
     
    11-08-2010, 01:58 PM
  #7
Green Broke
I got Reeco lunging by having me in normal position for lunging and someone else leading him on the outside. He got the idea fairly quickly and we got rid of the 2nd leader as soon as he got the idea.
WolfsongStorm likes this.
     
    11-08-2010, 02:07 PM
  #8
Trained
It's not that he's so good at leading, or he's so desensitized. He simply doesn't know what you want. Get him on a lunge line and chase him off. Be firm, no half-hearted attempts and then being flattered that he doesn't want to leave you. Send him off, keep your arms out to the side and really drive from behind. Keep the circle small and walk with him. Praise like mad when he's doing good. It's also a good idea to teach him to stay out when you are done as opposed to him walking into the middle. And when you change directions, circle him to the outside. The middle of the circle is YOUR space.
     
    11-13-2010, 12:57 AM
  #9
Weanling
Where are you looking when you send him off? Don't look at him--always look in the direction you want him to go. If he does come towards you, gently flick the end of the line toward his neck to push him away. If you keep him walking around you (even if it is small circles) you will eventually get a lunge.

Do you have a round pen you could practice in without a lunge line? I learned to lunge in a round pen without the line first--it was a lot easier to get the hang of it that way (for me, anyway).
     
    11-15-2010, 02:04 AM
  #10
Trained
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Originally Posted by riccil0ve    
And when you change directions, circle him to the outside. The middle of the circle is YOUR space.
On a lunge line you can't have a horse circle "out" to change directions, or he will wrap up in the line. So not sure what you mean here...

Another case in point, I don't WANT a horse showing me his hindquarter...his hinder is for defense, and I don't care how "kind" he is, that needs to stay away from me unless I 'want it' near me (like brushing, or handling his hind feet...but even then, he doesn't get to swing it toward me.
     

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