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    10-03-2013, 08:18 AM
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Foal
Questionnaire Human-Horse relationship and NH for thesis

Hello everyone,

I am currently doing research on the horse-human relationship, natural horsemanship and the construction of identity and the changing relationship to nature. The questions in the questionnaire are based on 3-months of field work at a natural horsemanship ranch in Northern-California. It would be amazingly helpful if you could answer them (or a few) to the best of your ability!

1. Do you feel horses have influenced who you are? If so, how?

2. “Horses are a portal into nature.” Do you agree with this statement? Why /why not?

3. How would you describe your way of working with your horse(s)?

4. How would you describe your relationship with your horse(s)?

5. If you come from a ‘traditional’ background and you identify yourself with ‘natural horsemanship’, could you explain why you made the switch and if it has changed your relationship with your horse, how you perceived this change.

6. If you identify as being part of the natural horsemanship community; has being part of this larger community influenced you in anyway?

Any responses can be send to me by PM.

Thank you!
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    10-04-2013, 04:23 AM
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I'd LOVE to answer this!!! And I would also love to read/hear what your findings are if possible :)
I've got to really think on my answers, so I will email you my response in the morning :)
     
    10-04-2013, 04:28 AM
  #3
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Also, would you mind if I shared your questionnaire in a couple facebook groups? I will ask people to send their responses to you if so
     
    10-04-2013, 05:16 AM
  #4
Foal
Thanks :). Can't wait to read your answers :)

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Also, would you mind if I shared your questionnaire in a couple facebook groups? I will ask people to send their responses to you if so
Please, do! That would be awesome :)
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    10-04-2013, 11:31 AM
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Green Broke
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Originally Posted by NatureHorsesHumans    
Hello everyone,

I am currently doing research on the horse-human relationship, natural horsemanship and the construction of identity and the changing relationship to nature. The questions in the questionnaire are based on 3-months of field work at a natural horsemanship ranch in Northern-California. It would be amazingly helpful if you could answer them (or a few) to the best of your ability!

1. Do you feel horses have influenced who you are? If so, how?

2. “Horses are a portal into nature.” Do you agree with this statement? Why /why not?

3. How would you describe your way of working with your horse(s)?

4. How would you describe your relationship with your horse(s)?

5. If you come from a ‘traditional’ background and you identify yourself with ‘natural horsemanship’, could you explain why you made the switch and if it has changed your relationship with your horse, how you perceived this change.

6. If you identify as being part of the natural horsemanship community; has being part of this larger community influenced you in anyway?

Any responses can be send to me by PM.

Thank you!
1. Yes I would say owning a horse as a teenager kept me from committing suicide.
2. That question is a little odd for me and not sure what you mean by a portal?
3. I would say I am a natural horseman
4. We have an excellent relationship and bond
5. I had natural horsemanship instincts growing up in the 70's but just didn't know what they were.
6. I think some NH people go overboard and are not using common sense. When I see some that are obviously Parelli enthusiasts they look like a circus act doing the same thing over and over. I think Parelli can teach a lot and don't have any problems with his methods but the followers think that is the only way.
I think people need to think for them self and pick and choose how they interact with their horse.
     
    10-04-2013, 12:57 PM
  #6
Green Broke
1. Do you feel horses have influenced who you are? If so, how?

What do you mean by "who you are"? If you mean my personality, horses themselves have not changed it -- horse people have. Being around people with similar interests has opened me up. Before I started competing and traveling with my horses, I was afraid to talk to strangers and adults. (I was 14 when I began competing.) Horses were the only thing that was easy to talk about, because I was obsessed. (I have a very obsessive personality.) After many positive interactions with horse people, I found "normal" people easier to talk to as well. I learned social cues and skills from my interactions with horse people that transferred over to my interactions with "normal people." Because everyone's a person and everyone uses similar cues (body language and tone). I've always understood horses, but horses helped me understand people.

If you "who you are", you mean my direction in life... Yes. Very much so. As a younger teenager, I was lost in a wide world with no friends and nothing worth wild to do. My already mentioned obsessive personality had nothing to obsess over... I was bored, irritated, and anxious all the time. Without horses, I don't know where I would have directed my energy. Horses were a sport to me. I rode horses like other kids played soccer and softball. I trained for hours a day trying to get everything perfect. Blue ribbons were my goal. I could have done worse as far as addictions go.

Horses also directed me towards my second love -- biochemistry. As a CTR/endurance rider, metabolism was extremely important. When my first horse was revealed to have PSSM, I researched the disease and found it extremely fascinating. Now I hope to become a research scientist.


2. “Horses are a portal into nature.” Do you agree with this statement? Why /why not?

I never closely associated horses and nature. I never had that struggle of trying to figure out how horses thought and how they differed from people. Again, I've never been good at identifying with people. Horses were always an extension of myself. Horses were a purer part of me, and I understood them innately. Also, nothing we do with horses is natural. Domestic horses were re-engineered by people to accept captivity. Occasionally, you'll see a throw-back -- a horse who doesn't accept captivity the way all the others do. Those horses help you see nature. But most domestic horses were bred for accepting temperaments and tolerance.

Horses are created to be wanderers. I can identify with a penned horse whose instincts tell it to get up and walk forever. Maybe that's why I love horses.


3. How would you describe your way of working with your horse(s)?

Goal oriented and holistic. Goal oriented because I go into every session hoping to get something done. Progress toward that goal is success. My main training "weapon" is good timing. The release must be timed correctly to teach a horse anything. Go slow, and accept the smallest success. Holistic as in "deal with the whole horse." I combine proper shoeing, good nutrition, 24/7 turnout, conditioning, and goal-oriented training to make an excellent horse.

4. How would you describe your relationship with your horse(s)?

I have two horses. My relationships with each of them is different.

Baby Girl was my first horse. We're "fire forged friends." We've been together for so long that it's hard to tell when one of us stops and the other begins. We have similar personalities, and she's easy for me to understand. We don't have a "mystic special bond," but I trust her and she trusts me. She would never hurt me intentionally, and I would never hurt her intentionally either. It's a steady relationship that became what is it today slowly, with no signs or mile markers. Steady, stable... That's the essence of it.

My other horse, Kitty, is harder for me to understand. She's challenging, because she has a malicious side that neither Baby Girl nor I possess. She will intentionally step on your toes, slip out from under you, and buck if she's tired of being ridden. When she's happy, she's a very good horse. Kitty and I's relationship is about compromise -- when I'm compromise and when I won't. Everything I ask of her is a compromise on her part as well. "If I do A, you must do B. Okay? Okay." I can bully Baby Girl into doing things, but I can't bully Kitty.


5. If you come from a ‘traditional’ background and you identify yourself with ‘natural horsemanship’, could you explain why you made the switch and if it has changed your relationship with your horse, how you perceived this change.

I was trained to be a hunter/jumper by my first coach. She was a great rider and amazing trainer. However, she wanted a competition partner out of her horses. She wanted riding horses, not pets.

I met a NH lady who was on the other end of the spectrum a few years later. She wanted a relationship with her horses foremost rather than wanting to get the most use out of them.

I didn't switch to NH, but I struck a balance between these two. The spirit was competition was still strong within me, but I incorporated NH techniques into my training. My horses became softer and more eager to please. I have a more personal, fulfilling relationship with my horses than I did when I only had my first trainer as an influence, but I still "use" them more than my NH lady does. My introduction to NH helped me understand feel and release, which are the portals for any sort of good training.


6. If you identify as being part of the natural horsemanship community; has being part of this larger community influenced you in anyway?

I am not a part of the community. I don't feel like I would be accepted by the NH-ers because of my emphasize of showing and competing.
     
    10-04-2013, 03:19 PM
  #7
Super Moderator
1.Do you feel horses have influenced who you are? If so, how?

No, I do not think they have influenced me to change my personality or who I am. I have learned a lot from them but, not in an influential way.

Hello everyone,

I am currently doing research on the horse-human relationship, natural horsemanship and the construction of identity and the changing relationship to nature. The questions in the questionnaire are based on 3-months of field work at a natural horsemanship ranch in Northern-California. It would be amazingly helpful if you could answer them (or a few) to the best of your ability!



2.[B “Horses are a portal into nature.” Do you agree with this statement? Why /why not?[/B]

Not at all. They are not studied much in the wild. Watching/studying truly wild animals offers far more understanding.

3. How would you describe your way of working with your horse(s)?
Consistent, no nonsense, firm fair and fun.

4. How would you describe your relationship with your horse(s)?
Better than good. They know where they stand and accept me as being their leader.

5.If you come from a ‘traditional’ background and you identify yourself with ‘natural horsemanship’, could you explain why you made the switch and if it has changed your relationship with your horse, how you perceived this change.

I have not switched from the traditional (UK) way of working with horses. I have not been overly impressed with any 'Natural' trainer's method.

6. If you identify as being part of the natural horsemanship community; has being part of this larger community influenced you in anyway?

No, I am not part of the NH community nor would I ever be. From the studying I have done on it convinces me that my traditional methods are better.
     
    10-05-2013, 01:30 PM
  #8
Foal
To everyone who has replied so far: thank you so much!
Every reply really helps my research!
     
    10-05-2013, 08:00 PM
  #9
Weanling
1. Do you feel horses have influenced who you are? If so, how?
An incredible amount. Horses are who I am, I live and breathe horses. I feel that if I was forced away from them I wouldn't be the same person anymore.
2. “Horses are a portal into nature.” Do you agree with this statement? Why /why not?
I personally don't. Captive bred horses, as much as we like to think they are, are not wild animals. Truly wild-as in born raised and live in the wild, no contact with humanity whatsoever- are the real wild horses. Those horses have a complete understanding down to a tee how nature works and how to get the most out of it. Captive bred horses really don't have an understanding that deep. Like most fancy top competition horses are used to wake up, eat hay and grain in my cushy stall, get tacked, worked, then thrown in a pasture for a few hours then sleepy time in my stall again.
3. How would you describe your way of working with your horse(s)?
Not quite the norm. No nonsense but fun for both horse and rider, switch ups, lots of different 'obstacles'. Hard to explain, but easy to understand when one sees it.
4. How would you describe your relationship with your horse(s)?
Understanding of limitations. We're forged together at the hip. We're very close and he is my best friend. He knows what I need him to do, I make that very clear to him.
5. If you come from a ‘traditional’ background and you identify yourself with ‘natural horsemanship’, could you explain why you made the switch and if it has changed your relationship with your horse, how you perceived this change.
My first trainer was a NH nutcase. Literally everything with her was Parelli or CA or some random NH trainer that was 'of the Gods' to her. My next trainer was a competition loon. She wanted nothing to do with bonds or pet horses, she believed bonds didn't exist and people shouldn't have horses as pets, only mounts. I repelled from both of those people and eventually went my own way, learning things myself when working with horses, discovered what works best for each horse, as well as myself.
6. If you identify as being part of the natural horsemanship community; has being part of this larger community influenced you in anyway?

I really don't think I'm of the natural horsemanship community. I honestly don't know how to label my ways with horses. Hell, I just say its training. Honestly When I'm met with people from a hardcore NH background, I don't know what to say.
     
    10-05-2013, 08:37 PM
  #10
Yearling
Quote:
Originally Posted by NatureHorsesHumans    
Hello everyone,

I am currently doing research on the horse-human relationship, natural horsemanship and the construction of identity and the changing relationship to nature. The questions in the questionnaire are based on 3-months of field work at a natural horsemanship ranch in Northern-California. It would be amazingly helpful if you could answer them (or a few) to the best of your ability!

1. Do you feel horses have influenced who you are? If so, how?

2. “Horses are a portal into nature.” Do you agree with this statement? Why /why not?

3. How would you describe your way of working with your horse(s)?

4. How would you describe your relationship with your horse(s)?

5. If you come from a ‘traditional’ background and you identify yourself with ‘natural horsemanship’, could you explain why you made the switch and if it has changed your relationship with your horse, how you perceived this change.

6. If you identify as being part of the natural horsemanship community; has being part of this larger community influenced you in anyway?

Any responses can be send to me by PM.

Thank you!
1. Do you feel horses have influenced who you are? If so, how?
Who I am? No. No more so than the pecan trees in my orchard . Who I am was influenced by family members, friends, associates, etc.... who provided guidance, inputs, advice, etc.... and by the choices I made and directions I took with my life. I'd say I had a much greater influence on who my horses are since I have a major impact on their lives.

2. “Horses are a portal into nature.” Do you agree with this statement? Why /why not?
No. Domestic horses are just as much a part of nature as people or any domestic animal. Which is to say that it's been selective bred by humans to be less a part of "nature" than nature had intended. Feral horses or the one remaining specie of wild horse in Asia are not readily usable by man (except for food). Even the minority of people who do use the horse for the "nature" trips (i.e. Ride in nature for days while camping) are using it as a means of transportation. It's not more a portal into nature than a canoe. The vast majority of riders don't even come close to that anyway and riding around an arena, racing, evening or doing shows is hardly a "portal into nature".

3. How would you describe your way of working with your horse(s)?
Extremely old school (which is funny since people are doing it now acting like it's something new....e.g. Never owned a shod horse). I was taught by old family members and friends (folks born in the later part of the 1800's and very early 1900's). You take each horse as individual since what worked well with one horse might not work as well with second horse and not at all with a third. It's about trust, because the horse has to do what you want vs what it wants. You won't be as successful if your horse doesn't come to accept you as the one who decides if something is dangerous (e.g. Trust me those balloons tied to and floating around that mail box are not dangerous and won't eat you so keep going)

4. How would you describe your relationship with your horse(s)?
I own my horses. Just like I own my dog. They serve a purpose for me (probably a bit more functional than most ) just as other people's horses serve a purpose for them. However, unlike dogs, horses are livestock.

5. If you come from a ‘traditional’ background and you identify yourself with ‘natural horsemanship’, could you explain why you made the switch and if it has changed your relationship with your horse, how you perceived this change.
I come from background that used what today people call NH, although I dislike the term (don't use it for me) because it's just a marketing name that some people started slapping on whatever techniques they use so they could sell it as if it were something new that they came up with. Non of it's new. The people who came up with these almost endless ways of working with a horse have been long gone and in the vast majority of cases who there were was forgotten with them. In my day people helped others with horses FOR FREE (imagine that). The only reward was helping someone end up with a horse they could ride and work with.

6. If you identify as being part of the natural horsemanship community; has being part of this larger community influenced you in anyway?
I don't. Oh, I do a lot of things some people associate with it (e.g. My horses are unshod, aren't trained with bits). The biggest thing I'm gotten from the NH community is:
A) some people are fanatics about a certain NH trainer.
B) some of these trainers are a lot of hype (and they believer their own hype ).
C) in spite of what some "trainers" promote and some "followers" believe no one way of doing things works well for every horse.

Now, I'm not saying that anyone who shows someone how to use natural techniques to train a horse isn't worth listening to (even though some aren't ). I had a friend insist that I watch a certain person (I'll leave out the name) work with some horses. From the few things I saw he did really well. In point of fact he did the best job of getting a horse to load I've ever see. I'm sure there are some that do a good job with all horses, but if so then they are flexible, adjusting to what works best for that particular horse (which might work for most of the horses they deal with, but they have other methods too just in case) and not following a structured system.

Training a horse is not a game. I assure you that your horse doesn't see it as a game anymore than you saw taking calculus or chemistry as a game. To them you're wanting something of them and they have either figured it out or not. One horse might find it technique confusing and frustrating, another might fine if fun and interesting and yet another might find it dull and boring. Have more things to draw on so that you have the ability to change up the training to make it and keep it fun and interesting.
     

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