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    05-22-2013, 12:31 AM
Resisting Join Up

My new 3yo tobiano paint mare is being really stubborn to join up. She will show signs that she wants to by turning her inner ear and watching me. She stops and turns on my cues but when I stop her she just stands there and resists joining me. She's the first horse I have had resist the join up. What can I do to coax her?
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    05-22-2013, 12:43 AM
Green Broke
Well, you can either keep at it or try a different approach with her. No two horses respond in the same way and maybe joining up with a human in that particular manner just isn't something that is going to happen with this particular horse.
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    05-22-2013, 12:54 AM
I've asked before, but, what is join up?
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    05-22-2013, 01:02 AM
Join up is pushing a horse away so that it's decision is to be with you. I run them around a round pen by putting up my left hand. When I put my hand down that is the cue to stop and come to me. She's not coming up to me. She just stops and waits for another cue.
    05-22-2013, 01:06 AM
Originally Posted by ansinfamily    
join up is pushing a horse away so that it's decision is to be with you. I run them around a round pen by putting up my left hand. When I put my hand down that is the cue to stop and come to me. She's not coming up to me. She just stops and waits for another cue.
So your horse should walk up to you? After hard work and without being asked?

I'm not being a smart ass! I really don't know what it is.
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    05-22-2013, 01:07 AM
Green Broke
That would be correct, Phly.
    05-22-2013, 01:10 AM
Originally Posted by tempest    
That would be correct, Phly.
Ok, now, like I said I don't know.

What if you don't want the horse to come to you?

Maybe I should start another thread.. I don't wanna hijack.
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    05-22-2013, 01:15 AM
Green Broke
You push them away with your body language.

But the overall point of joining up is to let the horse initiate the contact with you because if they do that, and I'm hesitant to use this term because it's not necessarily true, they are "bonded" to you because it was their decision to make contact with you. And if a horse decides something on it's own, or you can get the horse to think it was their idea, it's more deeply ingrained into it's mind.
    05-22-2013, 01:19 AM
I use a lunge whip in my right hand as cue to start moving. I only hold it for a walk and circle it for trot. My left hand up means to stay out in the circle. When I'm doing join up if I do not want the horse to come to me I keep my left hand up but lower the whip. When I lower my left hand that's the cue to walk to me. After doing join up they usually will follow you and it is easier to do lead work.
    05-22-2013, 01:22 AM
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Basically what AF said. Different methods are used to cue the horses. I used straight body language and as AF said in her post she uses a combination of the body language and equipment.

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