No, I did not contradict myself. You aren't understanding what I'm saying. It's all in the way the horse sees the human......and it's not in the same way he sees his alpha horse. It's in the energy we produce when we correct a horse. I never yell, I never smack, I never kick, I never jerk, any of that stuff. And my warmblood came to me a labeled biter, kicker, man hater and was said to be dangerous, vicious and unpredictable. When he did try to bite I NEVER smacked him. You can't get away with punishing a horse when he is giving you feedback, which is what a horse is doing when he bites, kicks, etc. It's because WE did something to cause that reaction. So for our mistake, the horse gets punished for it? I don't think so. My warmblood never even thinks about biting now. That's because I found out what the trigger was for his biting and worked on fixing the real issue, not just ignoring his feelings and punishing him when he tried to tell me how he was feeling about what was going on. Horses give us plenty of warning before they bite. If someone chooses to ignore the horse, well, it's their own fault if they get bitten. It's not the horse's fault the person wasn't paying attention.