Something to ponder - Page 3
 
 

       The Horse Forum > Training Horses > Natural Horsemanship

Something to ponder

This is a discussion on Something to ponder within the Natural Horsemanship forums, part of the Training Horses category

    Like Tree40Likes

     
    LinkBack Thread Tools
        03-01-2013, 02:44 AM
      #21
    Yearling
    I'm going to take a shot at the rope wiggle bit. I was never taught its purpose, but I can gander a guess.

    If a horse was enroaching your space, you would use your arm to make it move out, in turn, putting energy in the rope which transfers to the horse?
         
    Sponsored Links
    Advertisement
     
        03-01-2013, 02:46 AM
      #22
    Trained
    Sure - it's because horses tend to back away from wiggling snakes... isn't it??
         
        03-01-2013, 09:34 AM
      #23
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Deschutes    
    I'm going to take a shot at the rope wiggle bit. I was never taught its purpose, but I can gander a guess.

    If a horse was enroaching your space, you would use your arm to make it move out, in turn, putting energy in the rope which transfers to the horse?
    Nope, it comes from vaqueros who do actual ranch work. They always have either a mecate rein or a get down rope on their horses. They sometimes have to get off their horse to doctor a cow and they take the get-down rope/mecate tail with them so that they can either step the horse up to loosen the rope on the cow.....or wiggle the lead and get the horse to step back and tighten the rope on the cow.


    flytobecat and Cherie like this.
         
        03-01-2013, 10:20 AM
      #24
    Showing
    Whenever I've seen a Parelli advocate backing a horse with a wiggling rope, the horse is trying to avoid getting clunked under the jaw with that big clip. The horse's nose is so high in the air he has no idea of what to do next. My horses back when I flop my hand sideways and hold the other up like a stop sign. To move them back faster I glare at them and lift my shoulders. There's no head raising from fear.
    smrobs, Cherie and tbcrazy like this.
         
        03-01-2013, 01:50 PM
      #25
    Yearling
    Ooooh! That makes sense! Thanks for explaining.
    Posted via Mobile Device
         
        03-12-2013, 11:12 PM
      #26
    Showing
    Japhy, it's a combination of body language and that your focus is on another horse. Just go out and fix fence and the horses will show up to check your work.
    Cherie likes this.
         
        03-12-2013, 11:30 PM
      #27
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
    Whenever I've seen a Parelli advocate backing a horse with a wiggling rope, the horse is trying to avoid getting clunked under the jaw with that big clip.
    That's called 'causing' rather than 'making' by the way.
         
        03-15-2013, 09:46 PM
      #28
    Showing
    Loosie, you've got me there. Would you explain in more detail?
         
        03-15-2013, 09:49 PM
      #29
    Showing
    Saddlebag, I think she means that the horse just instinctually backs away just trying to avoid getting hit rather than actually thinking "Okay, the human wants me to back up"...which would happen if the human was making/cueing the horse to back.
         
        03-15-2013, 10:48 PM
      #30
    Trained
    Nope, sorry guys, was just being cheeky & sarcastic... again, & forgot to add emoticons to make that clear!

    I do actually have a lot of respect for (a lot of) Parelli's ideas & principles, but I think his ideas regarding 'cause v's make' just seems like a (silly) rose by another name to me. & while principles are mostly quite sound IMO, some practices, such as using a heavy clip to be able to punish the horse more strongly in that manner really... don't gel with me.
         

    Quick Reply
    Please help keep the Horse Forum enjoyable by reporting rude posts.
    Message:
    Options

    Register Now

    In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

    Already have a Horse Forum account?
    Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

    New to the Horse Forum?
    Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.

    User Name:
    Password
    Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
    Password:
    Confirm Password:
    Email Address
    Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
    Email Address:

    Log-in

    Human Verification

    In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


    Old Thread Warning
    This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

    Thread Tools

    Similar Threads
    Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
    Random Questions that are fun to ponder HorseCourage General Off Topic Discussion 6 11-03-2012 08:18 PM
    Just somethings to ponder hiwaythreetwenty Eventing 19 11-24-2009 12:00 AM
    things to ponder late at night KANSAS_TWISTER General Off Topic Discussion 23 04-27-2008 02:45 AM



    All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:27 AM.


    Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
    Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
    Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0