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post #161 of 162 Old 03-31-2010, 01:43 PM Thread Starter
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Originally Posted by kitten_Val View Post
I didn't like the video, but now I feel for LP in some way. Because it's been going already on what? 16 pages, mostly same comments. Folks, lets give her a break and switch to someone else worse IMO! For example Julie Goodnight (spell?) and her shock collar for horses to train out of bad habits!
Understood. . .I didn't like the video, and I wouldn't like it whether it was LP or any other "trainer" doing the exact same thing.

The problem, though, is that is WAS LP, and this wasn't just some backyard video taken of Linda during a "bad day."

This was a video sold as a training video. Linda, in this case, was supposed to be the trainer. Given that Pat and Linda have such a devoted group of followers, many of whom are very much novice or timid horse owners, Linda's handling of that horse is a poor example of "training" and not something worthy of trying to emulate.
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post #162 of 162 Old 03-31-2010, 04:52 PM
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What I have been trying to convey is that while I didn't think that she was displaying great training strategies or skills, she wasn't abusive either. I think people are too quick to hop on the abuse bandwagon when they don't agree with someone's training or behavior. Getting angry with a horse and being a little more physical than most isn't abuse. If the horse had hobbled away, been bleeding, truly fearful then yes by all means blow the abuse whistle. If the horse at the end of whatever they were doing is even relatively calmer, paying attention to the handler, licking, chewing, even just standing still alone and blowing then it wasn't true abuse. Did it help the horse in the long run? Who knows. But to me bad training is bad training, abuse is abuse and I feel there is a big difference between the two. Now if you want to get into the mental aspect and the horrors of retraining a horse I believe that's another topic. I don't think this horse was abused, simply not trained very well in this particular situation. But again, that's MY opinion.
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