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        03-03-2010, 11:57 PM
      #11
    Green Broke
    If I were that horse, I would have a nervous breakdown from not understanding what I was suppose to do and being hit repeatedly. I would than proceed to turn around and kick her so hard she breaks a leg, then run away. Far, far away.
         
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        03-04-2010, 12:28 AM
      #12
    Weanling
    I see a very pushy horse there that is running over people.
    Her use of NH methods (they all use the same, just with fancy names) is very off. I agree fully that she did not follow through with the correct methods, was way off on her timing, and she lost her patience.
    But,
    I've slapped horses on the cheek before, Because they weren't giving to the lighter pressure I had applied. I've Yanked horses around to get two eyes as well. Although, I am not a fan of the big snaps under. Whopping him on the butt is to disengage his hindquarters if he wont get his butt out of my way.
    Be as light as possible but as much force as necessary.

    No, my horses are not head shy. They are not flighty. And they Respect people
         
        03-04-2010, 01:15 AM
      #13
    Super Moderator
    Shame on that horse's owner for watching that non productive bullying and not intervening.
         
        03-04-2010, 01:30 AM
      #14
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Crimsonhorse01    
    I see a very pushy horse there that is running over people.
    Her use of NH methods (they all use the same, just with fancy names) is very off. I agree fully that she did not follow through with the correct methods, was way off on her timing, and she lost her patience.
    But,
    I've slapped horses on the cheek before, Because they weren't giving to the lighter pressure I had applied. I've Yanked horses around to get two eyes as well. Although, I am not a fan of the big snaps under. Whopping him on the butt is to disengage his hindquarters if he wont get his butt out of my way.
    Be as light as possible but as much force as necessary.

    No, my horses are not head shy. They are not flighty. And they Respect people

    Really? You see all that? I see a confused horse with not a clue in the world what he should be doing.

    That lady is a quack. What was she attempting to accomplish? I must have missed it when I was banging my head on the desk or rolling my eyes. But I didn't miss how cute she looks in the parelli gear, like a nuttier version of linda herself!pompom pony tail on top of her head and everything!hehehe
         
        03-04-2010, 01:51 AM
      #15
    Weanling
    Guys... you can't get the whole story of what happened in just that short video.

    She slapped that horse on the butt to get it to face her. Im not going to say any more than this because I can see this thread turning into an argument very quickly.. All im going to say is if you had seen before and after that video, you may change your thoughts and views.


    Oh and btw.. please don't let my name go ohhh... she's a parelli freak etc.. the old Parelli was a look better before they fell into the trap of money money money.
         
        03-04-2010, 02:10 AM
      #16
    Trained
    I won't post too much about this video here because I posted on the other Parelli thread but I think you are being a little too hard on her about this horse. She wasn't whacking the horse with the rope or her hands. She was defining her space and he ran into it. That horse had serious ADD and she needed to be quite aggressive in getting his attention. I don't like much of what I see in the Parelli program but I didn't mind this at all. That horse was not scared and he won't end up head shy. He had never been required to pay attention to any human on the ground and it took him a long time to figure out he needed to give his attention to her. This is not a young horse just starting out if it was I would be right there with the rest of you condeming her but this is a mature horse. Look at the horses expression at the start of the video and look at it at the end. At the end he has his head down and is looking at what Linda is doing and paying some attention to her. In the beginning he didn't pay any more attention to her than if she had been a leaf on the ground. There are several times when she had to step out of his way before he stepped on her. Not everyone would have done it this way but I think in this situation this horse needed what she did.
         
        03-04-2010, 02:10 AM
      #17
    Yearling
    But what was the point of backhanding the horse in the face, with the lead rope and her hand?
         
        03-04-2010, 02:14 AM
      #18
    Trained
    If he hadn't been in her space she couldn't have reached him. He was not invited to be that close to her so if he wants to be left alone he had better move out of her space untill she asks him to come in.
         
        03-04-2010, 02:18 AM
      #19
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kevinshorses    
    I won't post too much about this video here because I posted on the other Parelli thread but I think you are being a little too hard on her about this horse. She wasn't whacking the horse with the rope or her hands. She was defining her space and he ran into it. That horse had serious ADD and she needed to be quite aggressive in getting his attention. I don't like much of what I see in the Parelli program but I didn't mind this at all. That horse was not scared and he won't end up head shy. He had never been required to pay attention to any human on the ground and it took him a long time to figure out he needed to give his attention to her. This is not a young horse just starting out if it was I would be right there with the rest of you condeming her but this is a mature horse. Look at the horses expression at the start of the video and look at it at the end. At the end he has his head down and is looking at what Linda is doing and paying some attention to her. In the beginning he didn't pay any more attention to her than if she had been a leaf on the ground. There are several times when she had to step out of his way before he stepped on her. Not everyone would have done it this way but I think in this situation this horse needed what she did.
    Agree with you 100%

    The point of backhanding the horse in the face was to get him out of her SPACE!! He was running over her.
         
        03-04-2010, 02:37 AM
      #20
    Foal
    Everyon this video is of a horse that does not respect people spaces and all she was trying to do was getting his attection and asking him to respect her space.
         

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