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        05-07-2013, 07:49 PM
      #11
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    Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
    Your horse may be what is often referred to as thin skinned. This refers to being what seems to be overly sensitive to grooming. Perhaps use a softer brush. What are you feeding this horse? If you are giving any supplemental feeding of grains or pelleted feed you might try reducing them until he gets none. Just hay or hay and grass. Too rich a diet can cause his behaviour.
    We do have daily worming supplements, which says a small cup on a daily basis- which is what we do. Otherwise its mainly just grass.
    We also do use a soft brush for his back, a face brush actually, but he doesnt flinch under that, in fact, all his flinching is very subtle.
         
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        05-07-2013, 07:52 PM
      #12
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    Originally Posted by franknbeans    
    I am not an expert like you asked for, but since this IS an open forum, I am going to add my .02 anyway. Take it or leave it. WHat you are describing is not a "spook". To me a "spook" is a reaction to something surprising/startling/scaring them. This is more a reaction to pain.

    Not to sound rude, but when a horse flinches when you touch their back they are back sore. Really pretty simple. If they flinch ALL OVER, then they may just be a particularly thin skinned horse.

    Smrobs is 100% right on, as usual. I also think there are many definitions of abuse, and add to that that it is one of the most "abused" terms (no pun intended) along with "rescue", I would not pay a whole lot of attention to that. Folks tend to say that to make excuses for bad behavior, IMO.

    I am curious as to why, when this horse goes well under saddle, you are so determined to ride it bareback? Yes, you still need to get the chiro, but I sure would think twice before I swung a leg over with out a saddle in this case!
    He is in fact a little spooky, sinces he's always cautious on first go rounds and will occasionally spook at a thing or two, but my mom says that he really just needs to bond with her
         
        05-07-2013, 09:28 PM
      #13
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    I would bet this horse needs a good Chiropractor.

    After taking care of his issues with a sore back, I will tell you how to teach him anything new:

    NEVER DO ANYTHING NEW OR DIFFERENT WHEN A HORSE IS FRESH!

    When you decide a horse is ready to introduce something new to him, DO IT AFTER A LONG, HARD RIDE! Never when a horse is feeling good and 'fresh'.

    If we want to introduce anything new -- like swinging a rope or dragging a log or ?????, we do it at the end of a long ride when the horse is quiet and preferably tired. Then, when you keep doing it, they are just fine with it. If they got scared or excited the first time you tried to do it, you are stuck with that reaction and association for a long, long time if not forever.
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        05-08-2013, 10:58 AM
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    do you think being abused has any role in this
    Step one. FORGET ANYONE EVER SUGGESTED ABUSE. This is a huge pet peave of mine. I have worked with abused horses, ones that were beaten, mishandled, neglected, etc. the number one best thing you can do for a horse like this is forget it ever happened. They don't need pity, they need to be treated like a horse.

    I agree it is likely pain in this horses case. If its not pain, its a significant training issue. Once you rule out pain, hop on him bare back, laying over his back, stomach down, with someone holding him. Pet him all over, as far as you can reach. Wiggle. Now the other side. In this possition its far easier to hop off if he has a melt down. Do this until he stands quietly, and is thoroughly bored. Now get on, one leg on either side, then hop off, the whole thing should take ten seconds. Get on and off both sides until he is bored. Now get on and mess around. Lean forward, and back. Wiggle your legs. Pet him all over. When he's relaxed, try shifting your self backwards and sliding off the side of his hip. When you can do anything on his back with him standing quietly, then go for a ride.
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        05-18-2013, 03:38 PM
      #15
    Showing
    I'm wondering if when mom got on bareback if she squeezed with her legs, perhaps too far back or her pelvic bones created painful pressure.
         

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