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    11-03-2013, 08:41 PM
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Red face Starting an Internship with Down Under Horsemanship trainers and Need some Advice!

I am a senior in high school and starting an internship to get into the St. Andrews University western equestrian team.
The people I will be working with buy a lot of horses from Clinton Anderson and his program, and help to train some of his signature horses. I will be riding everyday and just helping to clean the barn and feed, a great trade if you ask me.

Can I get some other teens, or experienced horseman's/horsewoman's advice on Clinton Anderson? I want to know opinions on his methods and his philosophy, and No. I don't care that he has marketed himself, more power to him. Just this, are his methods effective for most horses? (I know every horse is different, but for generality?) I plan on also branching out and seeing other trainer's methods to get a well rounded training basis. Thank you!
     
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    11-03-2013, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Nykia    
I am a senior in high school and starting an internship to get into the St. Andrews University western equestrian team.
The people I will be working with buy a lot of horses from Clinton Anderson and his program, and help to train some of his signature horses. I will be riding everyday and just helping to clean the barn and feed, a great trade if you ask me.

Can I get some other teens, or experienced horseman's/horsewoman's advice on Clinton Anderson? I want to know opinions on his methods and his philosophy, and No. I don't care that he has marketed himself, more power to him. Just this, are his methods effective for most horses? (I know every horse is different, but for generality?) I plan on also branching out and seeing other trainer's methods to get a well rounded training basis. Thank you!
There are certain aspects of Clinton's training that I like. He has the black and white philosophy that he constantly explains in his books and training dvds. It is very simple and easy to follow. Unlike some of the Parelli training (they actually just came out with a new dvd series though. I heard that it is better than the last and easier for someone new to the method to follow)
He helped me realize that I shouldn't let my emotions get involved with my training "Be black or white with no shades of gray"
His method won't work for every horse. But every horse should be able to take something out of it. That is why I never stick with just one training method.
I mix training from Clinton, Parelli, and a local trainer in my area named Caroline Rider
     
    11-04-2013, 01:25 AM
  #3
Yearling
I have followed CA....

.....method for about 7 or 8 yrs. Now. I really like the way he explains things so the average "Joe" can understand and I do think his method is effective with most horses.

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Originally Posted by Nykia    
I am a senior in high school and starting an internship to get into the St. Andrews University western equestrian team.
The people I will be working with buy a lot of horses from Clinton Anderson and his program, and help to train some of his signature horses. I will be riding everyday and just helping to clean the barn and feed, a great trade if you ask me.

Can I get some other teens, or experienced horseman's/horsewoman's advice on Clinton Anderson? I want to know opinions on his methods and his philosophy, and No. I don't care that he has marketed himself, more power to him. Just this, are his methods effective for most horses? (I know every horse is different, but for generality?) I plan on also branching out and seeing other trainer's methods to get a well rounded training basis. Thank you!
     
    11-04-2013, 01:38 AM
  #4
Trained
Yes, I find his methods VERY effective.

About five years ago everything at my barn switched to Clinton groundwork for colt starting. I can say, things have been SO much easier with the young ones, and older disrespectful horses. Never seen something make a horse more compliant.
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    11-15-2013, 12:13 PM
  #5
Foal
His methods are VERY effective. I have used his training for all my horses, and it works every time. It speaks to the horses in their own language, and its also very easy for me to understand. It's alot of common sense, both for horse and trainer.
     
    11-20-2013, 09:53 PM
  #6
Foal
I too am a big fan. Not perfect but a great foundation to start developing your own style. Good luck.

Cheers.
Les
     
    11-24-2013, 05:34 PM
  #7
Yearling
I think his stuff is ok. However I do think he sometimes spend to much time on the ground unnecessarily. I also am not a huge fan of bending the horse all the way around to your stirrup all the time. I'm just looking for the horse to give. Not reach and kiss my boot every time. I think sometimes that can muddy the signals I'm giving the horse. But hey what do I know. I'm just a nobody in the horse world.
He is a great communicator and explains what he is doing very well and is easy to understand. That is a big plus.
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    11-24-2013, 06:46 PM
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Started
For the most part I have found his methods to be effective and not difficult to apply.
Please keep us updated on your adventure...and welcome to the board.
     
    11-24-2013, 08:50 PM
  #9
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Originally Posted by Fort fireman    
I also am not a huge fan of bending the horse all the way around to your stirrup all the time. I'm just looking for the horse to give. Not reach and kiss my boot every time.
My trainer actually had a horse get its bit stuck to the stirrup doing that once. Something to watch out for.
     
    11-24-2013, 10:24 PM
  #10
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I agree that the bending to your stirrup a lot is not productive, IMO. If the horse cannot bend around without twisting /rotating his head, then you are not . Really getting the kind of softening and stretching that you want. You get a lot of rotation in the neck, but the poll does not "let go" of it's tightness, if that is a problem. The horse "breaks" behind the poll, so, in effect, avoids the flexion of the poll joint, which is so beneficial to him. And is integreal to him correctly ridden dressage.
It's not how far he can reach, it's the quality of the bend and stretch.

My personal impression is that CA approaches horses with a very adversarial point of view . It is personally distasteful to me, and though it might get results, I think it can make a horse operate more out of force and fear than from a willingness to try. It's very hard for me to explain or bring up clear examples of why I would say this. If you watch how he worked with colts at the Road to the Horse, and compare that to how Chris Cox worked, you can palpably feel the hardness in CA, compared to the firmness in Cox. There is a difference.
     

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