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        06-14-2013, 11:31 AM
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    If a saddle and bridle are well fitting then the difference in comfort to the horse is likely to be neglible.
    I have no issues with people riding without tack but horses are unpredictable creatures at best so its not something I'd want to promote outside of a fenced enclosure
    Riding bareback is OK when you're young but honestly I appreciate the comfort of a good saddle these days!!!
    Falling off is never problem until (a) the ground meets you at the wrong angle & (b) as you get older you don't bounce so well and your bones become more brittle
         
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        06-14-2013, 12:43 PM
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    Could you do a video of you and your horse? I would love to see it!!
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        06-14-2013, 06:58 PM
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    With how drastic you describe the changes, I'm on the band wagon of ill fitting tack. Trainer recommendation or not, horses shapes change, a trainers' 'favourite' might work for one, but not another, and if it works for your horse at point A it might not at point B because of weight / muscle gain or loss.

    I think being able to work tackless with your horse is great! I would be too worried about riding bareback regularly having a negative affect on my horses back... but if that's not something that concerns you (Jackson does have a fairly long back) and you're not planning on showing, then great. Just make sure you're working safely and slowly to minimize the risk of a 'blow up'.
         
        06-16-2013, 12:55 AM
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    Where is the research that says bareback is bad for horses? Saddles were not invented for NOT for the comfort of horses but for the comfort of man.Where did this idea come from?

    I enjoy bareback riding (with a pad, mostly to keep my pants clean) and so does my horse, as she seems more ready to go and more relaxed in the bareback pad. I never liked a saddle, but I am definitely a low-rent equestrian so I have never had a "quality" saddle.

    But I feel safer without a saddle, especially if the horse is unpredictable. How many people have hooked their foot in a stirrup or their bra on a horn? I have and it scared me. So I prefer bareback.

    I have ridden in a halter too. My mare April sounds a lot like BSMS's Mia. When I got her, she refused to be bridled or saddled by rearing. I rode her bareback and in halter until I trained her to accept the bareback pad, then saddle, then bridle. But I admit I prefer the pad. I like her short, broad (full QH bar) back and her spirit. It's fun and requires an athleticism I enjoy.

    I do cringe a little at the thought of no bridle but I don't have the kind of job that gives me the free hours to train to that level. I struggle just to ride my herd enough to keep them to an acceptable level of obedience.

    I understand the joy of bareback riding! But I prefer a bridle with it.
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        06-16-2013, 03:20 AM
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    Saddles are there to distribute the weight of a human over the horses back. Riding bareback centers all of your weight on a considerably smaller portion of your horses back and while some horses may be "okay" with bareback riding, others aren't.
         
        06-16-2013, 08:26 PM
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    Originally Posted by amberly    
    Could you do a video of you and your horse? I would love to see it!!
    I will be posting one on youtube in 2-3 weeks since in a few days I'm leaving on vacation!
         
        06-16-2013, 08:27 PM
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    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by alexischristina    
    With how drastic you describe the changes, I'm on the band wagon of ill fitting tack. Trainer recommendation or not, horses shapes change, a trainers' 'favourite' might work for one, but not another, and if it works for your horse at point A it might not at point B because of weight / muscle gain or loss.

    I think being able to work tackless with your horse is great! I would be too worried about riding bareback regularly having a negative affect on my horses back... but if that's not something that concerns you (Jackson does have a fairly long back) and you're not planning on showing, then great. Just make sure you're working safely and slowly to minimize the risk of a 'blow up'.
    The tack fits just fine. I've ruled that possibility out months ago. Tack just adds to the fire of my horse, I don't know why.
         
        06-16-2013, 09:28 PM
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    Originally Posted by KylieHuitema    
    The tack fits just fine. I've ruled that possibility out months ago. Tack just adds to the fire of my horse, I don't know why.
    The "tack just adds to the fire" part makes me think something is ill-fitted. How did you rule out the possibility of it not fitting well? Have you had his teeth checked? The bit may be bothering him.

    I am looking forward to being able to ride my mare bareback someday, but she's young, and while she's still even the slightest bit green, I'm not going to risk anything. I've only come off a horse twice, and both times the horse didn't buck or anything, but both times hurt enough for me to get a pretty good appreciation of the hardness of the ground and the unpredictability of a horse. Riding bareback provides a wonderful connection to the horse, but often I think it is the result of an already-closely-bonded pair. Cheers to you for having achieved that with your horse, but do be careful. A spook is more easily handled with a saddle and bridle than bareback.
         
        06-16-2013, 10:12 PM
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    What sort of bit were you using? A bit can fit perfectly (or appear to) without pinching or cutting the horses mouth, but each horses mouth is shaped a little differently and some just can't handle certain kinds of bits even if they're 'mild'. Thicker bits are generally considered more mild than thin bits, but having a thick bit to some horses is uncomfortable, in the same way some horses hate a simple single-joint snaffle, etc. that said, the fact that the problem pops up with tack and goes away without makes me almost CERTAIN something is making her uncomfortable.
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        06-17-2013, 09:12 AM
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    There are a lot of horses that never get over the panic feeling they get when the girth (cinch) gets tightened up, they learn to control it but can still explode if something happens to make them spook or jump and they feel the sudden pressure.
    Sometimes just lunging them or walking them around for a few minutes before you get on helps and when ridden regularly it tends to go away but returns if they have any length of time off.
    A horse like this should always be checked over for spinal problems though and not just dismissed as being 'cold backed'
         

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