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    05-17-2010, 12:35 AM
  #111
Started
The gal who owns him didn't have the expertise to deal with preparing for riding a greenie, but she did gain confidence in RLC Part I, just doing groundwork. So the assistant did the "prepping" on the ground, then got on & worked him.
     
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    05-17-2010, 12:53 AM
  #112
Green Broke
I'm on the fence about him. I will be honest, I do not have any experience with him, haven't watched him, haven't gone to a clinic BUT my BO is ALL Clinton Anderson this and Clinton Anderson that. And well, I'm not much on the way SHE works with horses and trys to gain respect and um...neither does my horse. In fact, she can't get near him because he will charge at her, rear on top of her, etc etc.

It all started one day when we were going to trailer him somewhere and she went to lead him in. He walked a little too close and she suddenly jumped and SCREAMED at the top of her lungs like a banshee and then slapped the heck out of his face open handed. Is this really a Clinton Anderson method to get respect? Anyway, for her it's been all downhill since as I can do pretty much anything with him and too him but she can't get within 6 feet of the horse without him rolling his eyes and going nuts.

So, not to steal the thread or anything, but is what she did something that Clinton Anderson would do and teaches, or um...is my BO just psycho?

BTW, yes I am moving him due to differences in opinion as soon as I get my clear coggins.
     
    05-17-2010, 01:18 AM
  #113
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Lol - your horse is teaching her if only she'd listen!

I've never seen/heard CA suggest slapping the heck out of a horse's face & screaming at the top of one's lungs at it. Anyone else?

"Oy suggest, when a horse gets into youah spaice, to, what is it, class?....that's roit, SLAP IT'S FAICE ALL OVAH! Then to really GET THE JOB DONE, it's what?...Roit, SCREAM BLOODY MURDAH AT IT! NO WORRIES!"
     
    05-17-2010, 11:12 AM
  #114
Green Broke
Ok, so it's just my BO... I find that he moves off just fun with a harsh "quit" and an elbow in the shoulder...it always gets him to move to the right and look at me like "sowy mom." ha ha.
     
    05-17-2010, 12:34 PM
  #115
Yearling
I had a person show me how CA gets horses to back up. This was before I had watched any of his DVDs. She was whacking this poor confused horse on the front of her face. I watched the DVDs and there is NO whacking the horse on the face. Where do people get that from? I also went to part of his clinic here and there was NO whacking on the face. Unless the horse was about to trample you to death or something. You tap, or whack, the horse on the chest or the clip under their chin. With Ca you always ask the horse first with a shake of the lead rope or body language. I have never seen him raise his voice in any video either. That is why I would really like to see his assistant kick the horse 32 times and make up my own mind. I suspect he is not always the nicest guy but so far, from what I have seen, his methods help the horse.
     
    05-17-2010, 03:25 PM
  #116
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Juniper, I hope you can get the dvd's.

If you can't, let me know & I'll mail them to you. I'm in northern CA. You will, God willing, see these dvd's!

Re: why students get it wrong: Looks to me like CA method has spawned some screaming face-slappers, just like PP has spawned some rope-flapping chin-thunkers & sitters-under-horses-legs! Sad & scary!
     
    05-18-2010, 11:51 AM
  #117
Yearling
Northern, I am afraid you are correct. When CA came here some people came away from the clinic hearing only the part about being firm and using the stick. They did not hear all the parts about taking small steps and rewarding the smallest try. I will try again on e-bay to get them used and if not I could buy or borrow them from you.
     
    05-18-2010, 12:12 PM
  #118
Trained
I like CA, but frankly take some stuff from several NH peeps. It just works for me that way, and I don't think anyone has all the answers. Just watched that DVD 2 days ago. Frankly, first, altho I did not count, I an very sure it was more like 10 times. And it was in response to the horse trying to kick at the assistant, so needs to be put in context. She was trying to get the horse comfortable with flapping stirrups. As CA said-what she did was nothing in comparison to what horses do to each other to teach. Frankly, one of the things I like about CA is that if a horse does something dangerous-like the above-he, like me, basically uses the 3 second rule. Make them think they will die (figure of speech people.....get a grip) for 3 seconds. Then-move on. Some of the NH peeps are just too mamby pamby for my taste, but that is me. If my horse kicks at me you can believe he will be WELL AWARE that I do not put up with that crap! And I won't just stand there and wiggle a string about it, for sure! Like everything in life-moderation and a reaching a happy medium is great. Nothing in extremes. JMHO
     
    05-18-2010, 12:42 PM
  #119
Yearling
Interesting, the horse was kicking at the person. Now I really want to see it.
     
    05-18-2010, 12:44 PM
  #120
Trained
Have lent it to a friend-when I get it back I will have to rewatch and count!
     

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