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post #11 of 52 Old 02-08-2014, 05:27 PM Thread Starter
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On my phone, so I can't quote, but Amberly, I understand what she is trying yo achieve - I myself used these methods as part of my degree in Equine Science, but I think she is utilising them terribly. You say when she yanks the leadrope, she is asking the horse to face her - do why then does she give it a slap on the face, making it turn away again - two totally conflicting instructions, no?
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post #12 of 52 Old 02-08-2014, 05:31 PM
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the reason a person would ask a horse to face them, is to get their attention, both eyes, so that you can now send their feet somewhere. you want their mind on your before you try to move their feet. it does not mean you have to snap a lead line to get their mind on you. it depends on how hard the hrose is focussed outwardly, and what you tried before the snap in order to ask them to focus on you.
as I said, that video shows absolutely NO finesse , and the makings of a very confused horse. please do not use this as an example of how a firm flip of the lead line might be used in a productive manner.
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I totally agree with you Tiny - I understand how that works, and like I've said, I've used similar methods myself. But, like you, I think this video is a horrendous example of methods that can be used well, but seem to have been utilised in a very coarse way that seem to have no benefit to the horse in question. A sharp flick of the lead can be used to redirect the attention to you, but she seems to just going round in circles, literally and figuritively.
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IMHO, that horse was confused from the beginning. When the guy asked the horse to back he gave no release or praise when the horse did what he was asking.

I wouldn't let either of those people get within a 10 mile radius of my horse.
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^Exactly. The horse didn't know what he was being asked, and so in response the man just asked harder.

The sensitivity of the internet baffles me.
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I found this somehow. I personally don't think it excuses how the horse was treated at all and if she was given the wrong horse I'd see the house perfectly justified to defend himself. Not saying it would be right but I can see it ending up that if that horse did lash back it would be destroyed (depending on the owner). I can't really fermenter exactly the technique I used to teach Ginny to back up, I think I used a mixture of pressure points but I can now simply point at her and say "back up" and she will do it.
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I personally am not a fan of any clinician. Not to say they don't start out with good ideas or methods but more often then not, they are moved into "fast fixes" through either greed or pressure to stay in the spot light or succeed in front of the audience.

I think in the case of Linda, she is trying to cash in on her husbands name. What I saw in the video was an example of why I don't like the "followers" of these clinicians. You can have a guy (Parelli in this case) who does some good things with horses and maybe teaches a few folks his ways. All of a sudden he is in the spotlight trying to make big bucks and people are jumping off cliffs because this now famous person said so. He might have had great ideas to start but people learn bits and pieces and think they are the new masters of the training world because they sat through a clinic, bought a book or watched a DVD. Heck, they even bought the special rope, halter and whip so they KNOW how to train all horses now.

Clearly if this mans wife doesn't get it, there are hundred of others out there that have not quite got it down pat either. Common sense really goes a long way in horse training and sadly, once some people watch the DVD, that seems to go out the window.
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videos that I have seen of Linda show that she has improved a lot in the last 10 years.
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I'm just trying to understand Linda's reasoning for acting the way she does here - I can't see how what she is doing can be beneficial to this horse whatsoever. The horse evidently has no idea what is going on and what he is being asked, and yet she just keeps upping the ante rather than adapting her methods.
...And if YOU, a bigger brained human, who presumably has a bit of a clue about horses yourself doesn't get what she's doing, what hope has the horse??

Yes, this has been 'done' before on this forum. IMO this is one eg. that they have moved far & away from the good *principles* Parelli used to teach. That this is an eg of instruction to a beginner student just makes me ill.
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Linda should know that to get a horse to look at you, the handler,while facing it, is to turn your head the opposite way. The horse will bring it's head back. I've done this many times because at liberty there is no line and no halter.
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